Posts made by samkook

luckily it shouldn't be too hard to fix.

It isn't, there's at least 2 way of doing it in the post I linked in my first reply.

This should help: https://forums.opera.com/post/41576

I meant if spending time adding more advanced configuration option is worth the extra users it will bring them, not the switch to blink.

...(but more time-consuming)...

That is the reason the devs swiched to Blink.

But if the goal is to get more user, it would help towards that. The hard thing is to figure out if it's worth it or not.

It's also easy(but more time-consuming) to please both with an advanced config page to toggle features.

It's on the same line when it's maximized, but not when it isn't.

But seeing wakingup screenshot made me realize how you could move the window if it would be on the same line: by having a title bar which was already a pain in the ass to re-enable after each update in v12.

To be fair, he has a point even though he said it in pretty much the worst way possible.

You can't use it in opera if that's what you're asking, my recommendation was to switch to firefox with that extension installed.

Read the forum a bit more, they started from scratch after v12.17 since they couldn't use a new web engine with the old UI and the old engine was too much trouble to maintain.

Your only option to get back the features is to stick with v12.17 for as long as you can and hope something better comes along.

I can recommend the firefox extension tab utilities which has tab stacking similar to the old opera(and a ton of nice customization options) or you can have faith that otter browser will blossom into something good since their goal is to bring back many of the old opera features.

I have no beef with dreamers as long as we recognize that this browser is little more than that ... whistling in the graveyard. It should not be held up as a possible alternative to Opera Blink which is an awesome browser and is rapidly gaining a loyal following in spite of all the negative posts from a handful of former Opera users. Opera Presto is dead. Deal with it and move on.

So since I don't recognize that since I clearly see it as a possible viable alternative, this means you do have a beef with them. It's a working browser with good compatibility with websites so I don't know why you keep insisting it's not a viable alternative.

Presto isn't dead yet BTW, that's what I'm using right now to write this post and I still use it for many websites. I did migrate to firefox as my main browser though since I wanted to switch before too many problems with it started to appear.

I've moved on, but I don't have to deal with anything you said since I disagree with pretty much everything.

Why would lose if it is getting better and better?

Because it getting better and better is a very subjective thing, I had to stop updating it back when I was giving it a fair shot since it was getting worse for me.

Not sure what your beef is with them or why you seem to hate the project so much, but I'm only talking for myself, not all the "disenchanted former power users of Opera 12" when I say I have hope for the project.

I'm basing my opinion on my experience after giving it a try using the traditional installer and it's a browser that loaded every page I needed and has a functioning MDI interface so it's already better than opera 25 for my needs(those previous 3 words are very important, don't go ahead and ignore them).
If they had implemented better ssl certificate handling and tab grouping, I'd have seriously tried switching to it for my main browser.

They don't need to compete with the big guys, they just offer a different alternative that no other browser is offering which attract a minority of people.
I seriously doubt it will ever come close to being a major browser, but they're at least trying to fill a void many of us feel. The fact they're not writing in perfect english doesn't mean they have no coding skills and that's what matter when you're writing a software.

For the goals, as they say, “It's better to dare to dream big and achieve half of your dreams than to dream small dreams and achieve all”.

opera:config has been replaced by opera://flags

Nope, they are different things with different purposes.

Maybe not the same thing, but if you want advanced options to tweak the browser, it's the place to go.

If code becomes messy BECAUSE you add too many features, then you're very poor at coding. It's the constant modifying of the code to keep it up to date with the times that makes it messy. If you plan things well, you can add as many features as you want in an orderly fashion. It's the things that you don't/can't plan for that will get you(the opera devs couldn't possibly know what all those years of internet evolution would bring).

A browser doesn't have to be compatible with other browsers, it has to be compatible with websites and that's the job of the web engine which they're not developing so it already is(you can already use it to view pretty much any website). It's the bells and whistles around the viewing of webpages that they need to implement(UI customization, tab stacking/grouping, mouse gesture, password manager, spell checker, extensions, etc.).

Also, they're not planning on implementing ALL the features the old opera had since some might not make sense in their case or can't be done if you're not a big company(like uploading settings to a cloud since servers to hold that data cost a lot of money) and they don't want to clone the old opera UI.

I know it's been around for a while(the first alpha release was january 1st of this year), but I personally just learned about it and thought others might not have heard of it.

It's perfectly possible for a couple of coders to create a very functional browser. They're not creating the web engine, they're using something already built like opera is doing so they only have to work on the interface which simplify things quite a bit.
They're also using an already existing and recent UI bulding tool which cut developing time and is something the opera dev didn't have back when they started.

The reason the old opera got ditched is because after so many years of updating it, the code became a mess and they weren't able to use a new engine with the old UI so they had to start from scratch.

As for viable alternative to the old opera, for now(for me), it's limited to firefox only so there's not much choice there. Chrome and opera 25 are too limited(not being able to save ssl certificates is a deal breaker for me) and IE haven't been very good in years(Although I don't know about the newer releases, I'm forced to stick with v8 for work).
As for Maxthon, I never tried it, but one thing I don't want is my browser having anything to do with the cloud(I use different settings/bookmarks on my different PCs). I'd use Lunascape instead(and do on my phone when I'm not using opera) if I want a multi-engine browser.

opera://config - WHATever, there isn't -even- a settings page, w/parameters (like the about:config, in Firefox; like Opera USED to have), that's easily accessible (searching 4 it, now, but, who knows, maybe it doesn't even exist)

opera:config has been replaced by opera://flags

No, Opera has made the right decision and the browser is already better than before and getting even better with each new version.

That's a very subjective statement and for those who hate chrome, completely false because people have different priorities(for me the new opera is useless and a menace with the forced auto-updating, but I won't go into details, I'm trying to put my complaining about it days behind me).

Now for some good news for the old 2%, since I was really missing the old MDI interface, I did some research and there's apparently a couple of people who also miss opera 12- that started Otter Browser which is meant to bring back many of the features from the old opera.
It's still very early in the development, but it seem to be going well and the MDI features have been implemented about 2 weeks ago.

You probably have hardware acceleration enabled in the browser(or in flash, I'm not sure where that's set up) and that will use a chip on the GPU to decode the video instead of using the CPU hence the rise in temperature.

I personally feel it's more appropriate here since someone interested in the issue can see both side of the coin in one place.

Using the wasted space that always shows up somewhere, I always remove the + button because I always find somewhere to double-click to add a tab.

But you have a point, that would make things harder.

It's nice to have change. But a wise company, when they have something really good, knows how to treasure it. and certainly, to keep it.

It's funny, that's exactly what I thought about many of the older opera unique features(I really miss the MDI interface) and now they're all gone.

There are many ways to disable the auto-update(4 of them I think), all with different advantages and problems and all listed in the thread linked by leocg earlier.