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It doesn't look like the new version(s) are improving Opera, so I'm still using v12.16. But it's breaking on more and more pages. It hasn't been able to deal with Facebook for months, and now it can't handle the settings interface in my router.
So, Opera -- you're no longer my default browser. Firefox has taken over that job. No, it doesn't have all of the customization features that I came to love in Opera, but it has handled every page I've thrown at it without difficulty.
Oh, dear. Guilty as charged, scratchspace. I guess I was too upset with what Opera ASA has done with v15 in both the Windows and Android versions.
Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't have said that. It'll probably set leushino off again. :devil:
(And yes, I did find a way to get back to Android v12.10. It wasn't hard once I started looking.)
Hmmm. Aren't the last two posts a little off-topic? I thought this forum was "Opera for Windows/Mac/Linux". "Opera for mobiles/devices" is here.
Just discovered that Opera Mobile v15 has appeared on my Android. No bookmarks. I haven't looked to see what else it's missing, and I'm not going to. It's slower than the previous version. It goes as soon as I can find a way to get back to the previous version of Opera Mobile. And if I can't do that, I'll use the browser that comes with Jelly Bean. Ugh.
Originally posted by leushino:
Yet another pointless thread.
Pointless? If so, why is it attracting so much attention?
Originally posted by leushino:
What a truckload of hysterical drama queens. Opera 15 is not a finished browser. ... You need to educate yourself in terms of what Opera is planning before pressing the panic button.
Nice point, leushino, but it doesn't quite fly -- because Opera did NOT post an advisory on the v15 download page. If we'd been aware that we were "upgrading" to an unfinished product, we'd have done as you suggest -- stayed with v12.16 until v15 was fully baked, and maybe taken a look at v15 from time to time to see how it was coming along.
As it is, Opera has not met the expectations of those who installed v15. They now have a bunch of disappointed users who thought they were getting something "new and improved" because Opera let them think that. Some of those users may not come back. Me? I'll stay with v12.16 for now, and check back on v15 in a while.
But now I'm worried that Opera has shot itself in the foot. That's not usually fatal -- unless it weakens their ability to compete in a crowded browser market. Which I'm afraid it does.
Count me in as another long-time Opera user who uninstalled Opera 15.
After reading this thread, I do resent the fact that when I went to get a copy of Opera to install on a newly set up Win 7 x64 machine, the website gave me Opera 15 without any warning that it's still a beta. I don't do betas any more -- haven't the time or the interest in dealing with the problems that sometimes come with them -- including missing features.
In my case, I was upgrading from Win XP Pro. That means a clean install. So of course the Opera 15 install didn't find any Opera 12 files to import. And the folder structures have changed, making it hard to figure out what to do with the config files from my old setup. Then I discovered some of the missing features -- especially the site preferences for things like javascript, plugins, etc. That was enough for me. I uninstalled Opera 15, installed a copy of Opera 12.16 from Opera's website, and copied the config files into place from my backup of the old system. Everything seems to be OK. Whew. But all that blew away a whole afternoon in which I could have been installing other software or enjoying the sunshine.
Thank you, Opera, for at least making the configuration issue fairly simple in Opera 12. I really didn't want to lose all my bookmarks and passwords. The bookmarks and Speed Dial came across from Opera Link OK, but not the passwords or site preferences. And I don't know what else didn't come across; that was enough for me. I just overwrote what was in the config files with the files from the old system.
