That history-dropdown, I think you you're referring to, is not what he is asking about.
That dropdown was available in Opera 12 aswell, but the "double page back" button had another function and another dropdown. If you clicked on the button, it would take you back to the first page you visited on that domain and if you open the dropdown menu for that button, it would list the first pages you visited for each domain you've visited on that tab.
That can be highly useful and is nowhere near the same as what you suggested.
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RE: Upgrade from opera 12 to 24 complaintOpera for Windows
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RE: Upgrade from opera 12 to 24 complaintOpera for Windows
Unfortunately no, you can't add that function back.
This is exactly the kind of stuff I'm talking about, this functionality should be trivial to add to a browser via extension if the developers won't do it themselves. But with the Chromium locked-down approach, this suddenly becomes an impossibility.Yes, you can go back to Opera 12, but it hasn't been updated in over a year and will keep getting more and more incompatible with websites, so it's not really an option in the long run.
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RE: Upgrade from opera 12 to 24 complaintOpera for Windows
Yes I know there are extensions like the DuckDuckGo extension you mentioned. I do use the "All in one Web Searcher" extensions, which provides a similar thing as your DuckDuckGo extension, but with the ability to add any search provider you want.
However... That's not the same as how I was able to add a simple textinput box right next to the url box in Opera 12, which I then could add any search provider I wanted to.
Why should third party textinput boxes be secondary citizens to the url box?
Key shortcuts are handy and all, but they are a solution to a problem that should not exist and they don't work at all for people who simply doesn't know about them, for example if my friends use the browser on my computer.
A textinput box directly on the toolbar, which then has an icon or descriptive label in it, will instantly be recognized for what it's function is, even for new people.The other customizability you mentioned, I never said anything about. I know full well what I can and cannot do in Opera Blink, and Opera Presto.
I'm running both Opera 12 and Opera developer 26.
Opera 12 simply wipes the floor with all other browsers, including Opera Blink, when it comes to customizability.When the move to WebKit (later Blink) was announced, it was said it was going to be "primarily an "under the hood" change".
That is simply not the case, as it's a radically different browser all together.
Now, if they do intend on bringing some or most of the Opera Presto customizability over to Opera Blink, then I will be a happy camper, and I am perfectly fine waiting for that until it's ready.
But the complete silence from Opera in regards to Opera Presto users questions, that naturally become complaints when they get no response, is still not helping.And I must point out again, I'm not dissing the work Opera is doing.
I do like the new browser.
I do appreciate their work.
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RE: Upgrade from opera 12 to 24 complaintOpera for Windows
One thing I must disagree with entirely:
"You say, no toolbars. I'm not sure what you're looking for there. You do have a tab bar. You can do searches in the Omnibus Address-search bar. And you can easily add a personal bookmarks bar, if you know how to activate it. Click on Settings/User Interface/and Show the Bookmarks Bar. There's it's done. You have it (and if you need more, there are some great bookmark manager extensions)."
What the original poster means is the ability to customize the toolbars. Add, remove and move around items om the toolbars.
Opera 12 was infinitely customizable in this regard. Opera 24 isn't at all.
You can't add anything to the toolbars, except an extension button that you can't even decide where it should be positioned.Say you want to add a custom textinput box on a toolbar? Well, you can't in Opera 24.
The only way to even come close to do that in Opera 24, is to create an extension, have that extension put an extension button on the toolbar that opens a popup or dropdown, and then in that popup/dropdown put said textinput box.That hardly counts as customizable in my opinion, and it's not in any way shape or form an optimal experience.
Say you need to access that textinput box dozens or even hundreds of times every day? (yes, it is a realistic scenario, I do that myself at times)
Having to move your cursor to wherever the extension button happened to be placed, click on it, click on the textinput box and then type what you need to type... Every single time... Would pretty much be insanity.All that is needed to allow for better integration of custom UI elements is for the extensions API to be extended with the proper hooks. That's not in any way impossible to do. It's just that they haven't decided to do it, yet atleast. Which I'm very much hoping they will do at some point.
They claimed moving from Presto to Blink would free up people so they could concentrate on UI innovation instead of Presto maintenance. I really hope so, because so far, Opera 12 is beating Opera 24 hands down in regards to any kind of innovation. It has way more features and way more customizability and it's not even half the size!
Don't get me wrong, I like some of the things in new Opera, and I understand that development takes time (I'm a developer myself). I appreciate their effort, I really do.
But, the criticism from Opera Presto users is valid and the complete silence from Opera in regards to whether certain features will be re-implemented or not in due time is not helping.