Originally posted by svetivoda:

Wrong! I do not owe them anything becouse it is my support (and others like me, of course) who make Opera what it is and makes them money. Certainly do not expect to be payed but I DO NOT owe them enything and I'm free to go on and look for really advances browser as Opera used to be.

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This is my point with changing the browser engine your gona piss a lot of people off changing the browser engine every so often I really hope this the end of that. Also before changing the browser should take a community vote I have never seen a poll on the engine change, then again, Opea can do what they want right? Also I think they were unique with their own engine. They need their own engine that's faster than the chrome engine cause really chrome just don't cut it; I hope Oprea does not add any worse crap from chrome like their extensions. they have exploits that may cripple Opera also chrome spys on the user. I never new Opera to spy but Google does and that's a fact I hope Oprea is not on board with this that would be sad if they were?

Originally posted by Pesala:

Originally posted by kidxrated:

what makes opera different from torch?

Lot's of vehicles use BMW engines but that doesn't make them BMW clones. Opera will evolve in it's own direction, and they will do their own development work on the Blink rendering engine.

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Nor are we cloning Opera 12, or any other browser. We will continue to innovate to build the best browser.

I assume that browsers using the same rendering engine will have similar site problems, and benchmark performance. That's about as far as the similarity goes.
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What's a variant of chrome have to do with a clone I never said it was a clone, but it is a variant of chrome?

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Originally posted by inherkhau:

Is someone deliberately trying to have us move to some other browser?
Opera was my browser of choice for 10 years or so, I really tried this new version for few weeks but I just can not get it why you can give us this unfinished product as upgrade ....
list of things I mis the most
-scrolling trough tabs with right mouse button pressed + mouse wheel
-built in notes
-not having to wait for other tabs to load when I click on those
-opera 12 looking and working speed dial

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This is why I considered moving to another browser, but all of them fail and run like crap like Firefox and chrome. Further more if opera keeps changing their browser, they will not gain a huge fan base more like dislikes, I hope some one at opera's management team have realized this? I hope this is the final big move, I really don't wanna see opera change engines to gecko, I am sick of it.

Originally posted by Pesala:

Originally posted by originalxform:

Why has Opera 17 become Chorme/Firefox?

It hasn't. Please don't post disinformation.

Read how to use the Bookmark Importer and how to enable the Quick Access Bar.

Reopening a closed tab is a different action to undo text editing, so using a different shortcut is logical.

Opera is using the chrome engine so there for runs like chrome I don't know if all the google spying stuff is there but all in all, if it's using the chrome engine, then its a variant of chrome what makes opera different from torch?