Posts made by khaavik

Thanks for the condescension. It would be fairly simple to keep a redundant backup of the previous session file. A world view which puts that onus entirely on the user and not of the product is exactly what is wrong with software engineering these days. No one should need to use a backup except in case of hard drive failure, and with proper hardware that should not be an issue either. The point is NOT to build the sexiest program possible and patch holes in it weekly. The point is to build something reliable. And yes, everything can fail at some point but handling a fairly common error with a small amount of data would be -- professional. Heck, why is there no backup of the previous state for when you hose an "update"?

Enjoy your clique. I'm gone.

Yes, I am running windows 8.1. That's why I posted in "Opera for windows".

No, there is not a previous version of the file available. Asking the internet got me that far. I am here because there is not a previous version of the file available in the (crappy) OS.

Hence my question as to whether there is a backup file in Opera of which I am unaware, like a "previous stable version" folder or a "Previous Session" folder. Since you have all spent your time scolding the user instead of providing answers, I guess the answer is no.

I despise windows as an OS. I am only running it because I didn't have the time and money to better when the old machine died. But the thing I despise MOST about windows is how it has trained people to accept bugs, memory leaks, and the general refusal to write robust software. We should not need to get regular software fixes. We should not need to backup our files in case the software eats it. And frankly, I could have had the same problem if I had RAID. Opera willfully overwrote my files and did not maintain a backup of its prior state. The fact you do not see that as a problem IS the problem.

Blackbird71, if you chose to live in a world where you can lose all of your data because the software can't be bothered to keep a backup of a file which is under a meg in size, then you deserve the software you have. The rest of us live in a world where software has existed long enough to be made stable and reliable and to NOT implement something so simple in a utility program is sheer programmatic incompetence. Honestly, if I coded like that I'd be unemployed.

This is exactly why I avoid forums -- they're an echo-chamber for big fish in small ponds.

leogc,

Did you have something useful and appropriate to say in clear English or did you just want to score pissing points?

As I said, Opera was set to resume the session, did not do so, and is apparently unrecoverable because there is no redundant backup so when the resume fails to resume it overwrites the saved session leaving us with bupkis. This is not a good design, and telling me that you personally believe I should have worked around it in the operating system by independently backup up my session every day is not useful.

Software is suppose to work with some reliability. Did you not learn that in engineering school?

"Maybe you could try renaming 'Last Session' into 'Current Session'."

If you could tell me where on my machine there is a "Last Session" to rename, that would be helpful and would constitute an actual answer to my problem. I do not see one and am unaware of one. This is Opera 45 under windows. I have been using Opera for about 12 years but have not kept up with all the changes in paths and organization because it's a utility, not my religion.

My machine just crashed and Opera decided that when I reopened it after the crash it would install an update overtop of my saved session, destroying it. As far as I can see there is no way to recover -- the open session seems to have overwritten the saved files, and of course I had no way of knowing it ate the saved files except to resume as usual and find I couldn't. Thus I have lost about 50 tabs saved up over the course of about 3 months. There is no way I am going through months of browser history to try to find the files I wanted.

I am frustrated and appalled that Opera can't handle this better. Backups are 1970s tech and should be a no-brainer.

I'm also not happy that all those extra search engines I specifically removed have come back without my permission at the same time that all my data was eaten. I do not want password saving, social media support, synchronization across devices, speed dial, VPN, integrated teleconferencing or any other fancy crap. I want a robust browser which can reliably resume a previous session, and apparently Opera isn't it.

If anyone knows of a way to recover the session, I would appreciate your help.