Originally posted by rilef:

On these Peacekeeper tests, a loaded Opera 12 clearly outperforms a loaded SeaMonkey and a loaded Firefox.

Kindly read my post again.I don't care about these tests

Originally posted by rilef:

You have to load these empty trucks with extensions/add-ons, to achieve even a portion of the same capabilities natively available with Opera 12

You are right Opera 12 was unique and great but there is no more opera 12, accept it now or after few months/years.I stopped using it when websites started showing me -You are using an outdated browser and also because of yahoo mail nag screen.I came across one site which won't even let me in.I could not ignore these things anymore.(I used to ignore these happily earlier when Opera12 was alive)

Originally posted by rilef:

Even Opera 18 without extensions has more capability, or soon will have, than Firefox or SeaMonkey without extensions.

lol .I would never say that about opera 18 but hope in future releases opera webkit add features rather than asking users to use extensions.(they already asked to use extensions for bookmarks,notes).

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

Originally posted by j4jasbir:

Empty trucks(new opera) run faster than loaded trucks, so shall we start running empty trucks.

I don't think that relation between the features *in the UI* and in the *engine* used to render the pages that people come up with is correct...

Try firefox/opera with and without plugins,addons . You will see the difference.

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

If you aren't a very new Opera user you should know that Opera 10.50 and a subsequent version that I don't remember very well of beat Chrome in the speed tests at the time it was launched.

Kindly read again my post as I don't care about speed tests.If I had cared about speed test or reviews, then I would have never used opera as my main browser.

Originally posted by Salahuddin1:

Originally posted by leushino:

Did you say "quicker than Opera in loading pages"??? Not according to Peacekeeper. I challenge you to go over to http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com and test it for yourself. SM is one of the slowest browsers according to their bench tests. It's clunky all right and that is why it has such a small acceptance among users. It is definitely not a viable alternative to Opera unless you want a browser that looks like the old Netscape browser from 1998.

Peacekeeper is an overall benchmark of many different tests and only one of many benchmarking tools. It certainly is not a measure of which browser loads web pages faster.

Empty trucks(new opera) run faster than loaded trucks, so shall we start running empty trucks. Or do you use your browser for F1 racing? Why so much fuss about fastness ( by milliseconds).
When features are added back to new opera maybe it will become slow like chrome(and a huge memory usage pig).

Thanks for mentioning the FF addons. Few more FF addons -
Fast Dial - closest alternative of opera speed dial
Secure login - wand replacement
Extended statusbar
Video Downloadhelper
Quick translator
Download stausbar
Flagfox
Image Zoom
Handy dictionary

Bookmarks are now available with the QAB in v.17. Features are being added back. Patience, Cricket.... patience. :whistle:

:lol: :lol:
Bookmarks is a great feature added in new opera 17 that is not present in any other browser.

Please read again the title of this thread.If someone does not agree with the OP then one should ignore him.It in not compulsory for forum users to reply(in every thread) if there is nothing good to add.

Originally posted by STNG:

There is clearly no indication that "almost all" of 12.xx's features should be restored in Opera/Blink.
Also, they mentioned about future of the Opera(Blink) earlier: "it won't be a clone of Opera 12" and "...over the years, Presto-based Opera had become overloaded with features, a number of them confusing rather than helping our users" (source: desktop team blog).

I bookmarked a blog post on which all features of Opera 12 that are included,till not included as well as removed in new opera were mentioned but deleted later.Anyway in the new opera, I will be looking for the most important features that I used and from them mail and notes are gone.
At present there is nothing left in this new opera which makes it different from other browsers except speed dial.(maxthon has much better speed dial than opera and has an inbuilt video download feature called resource sniffer) And I am not fan of browser being fast as browsers are not made for F1 racing :p

Originally posted by STNG:

j4jasbir

version of new opera when the devs say that almost all Opera 12 features has been added

When they said that what you mentioned about? I've read only about opposite plans from devs.

Please see below link
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2013/07/02/opera-15

We have neither asked nor forced our 12.x users to upgrade to Opera 15, as we know that some features that are important to you are still to come. So, while you are very welcome to test and use Opera 15, Opera 12.x will still be alive for some time. You can expect that we will keep Opera 12.x up to date and secure. In the future, once we are comfortable with the feature set, we may ask you to upgrade

Originally posted by serious:

Originally posted by leushino:

Opera will be just fine without a host of whiners.

same goes for trolls ... just saying...

:lol:

Opera has lost its identity and now it identifies itself as chrome. There are now three main browsers left IE,firefox and chrome(all others are clones of these three and you can find hybrids also :p )

Where do Opera 12.16 users go now Opera is dead

I cannot find any alternative to Opera 12, so currently using Opera 12.6 and waiting to try that final version of new opera when the devs say that almost all Opera 12 features has been added and then finally decide whether to stick with new opera or change to Firefox.