No, rafalluik is correct.

Vendor Lock-ins are always wrong. Never ever shall a feature be provided by only one vendor. Either it becomes open to all people, or freedom will be endangered. It has been the same with IBM, Microsoft, Apple, now Google. Also EMC², HP (personal experience on the storage side), you name it. Everybody tries to lock you into his jail.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the new Opera 20 either. But freedom is always more important than convenience. Instead of teaching the next generation to give in to convenience, we should teach it to fight for freedom. That is at least my personal opinion.

By calling it "slavery", rafalluik has chosen some harsh words, but I do understand that actually. I have called the same name on different users of Apple software, Google cloud services, even Microsoft users (and for gods sake, I partially am one myself still even if it's just XP x64, and I DON'T LIKE myself for that).

Whenever a way is harder than the other one, it seems it's the right one these days. For whenever "free" becomes too easy, it seems it's more like turning the user into the product being sold.

But that's market philosophy... Probably the wrong thread for that.

A good feature in Chrome (I think) is not just a good feature. It's a lure to draw you into a non-free environment.. with promises of GPL tacked on. And the backstabbing starts after you join..

Maybe I'm seeing things in a too dramatic fashion. I dunno. Maybe I should just go back to pure "free as in free beer" software and use FireFox/WaterFox/Iceweasel..

I am by far not the most skillful Opera user. Most of the distinct features of Opera 12 I never even used. Crazy, but true.

What I do see in Opera 20 however is the fact, that its built-in speed dial (THE killer feature for me) still feels more smooth and solid than what extensions for FireFox or Chromium/Iron can do. I tried it all, and the way how the Opera speed dial behaves and feels is still superior even today. At least in my opinion.

Since the speed dial is the most important thing for me (I don't even use bookmarks really, only very rarely, it's all speed dial), this is still a "killer feature".

However, it would be hard to use in an argument... Because a slightly better look & feel doesn't make it "unique and special" at all. It is important for me. But it's no longer unique.

I actually stopped talking people into using Opera. And the people that talked ME into using Opera have all switched to something else by now or are currently in the process of switching to either Chromium/Iron or Firefox.

Opera is no longer more cross-platform than other browsers (Think Solaris, BSD UNIX, BeOS etc.), it doesn't really have any features that would truly stand out, it's become hard to recommend over more well-supported wide-spread alternatives.

At least that's what I'm thinking.

Are you absolutely sure that the window decorations are Opera-specific? Because it does look almost the same as Chrome on default settings. Meaning the title bar, the window frame, even the behavior of the frame disappearing and the title bar getting more slim when maximizing the Window (as compared to regular windowed mode). All that looks exactly the same as it does with Chrome/SRware Iron/Chromium.

I'm not saying you're wrong (I wouldn't know, as I do not know the differences between Chromium and Opera source code in detail), I'm just wondering..

I assume Opera 20 is based on Chromium 20. If I'm not mistaken, maybe the code base of Opera 20 could be simply too old to support the feature!?

Because I tried this with Chrome 33 on Win7 and SRware Iron 30 (Chrome 30 ripoff) on XP x64. And with both it works. Same for Chromium 30 on PC-BSD UNIX. So either you're correct, and the Opera guys tried to build a Chrome UI lookalike with less (or rather: "different") features, or the code base is too old.

Because if Opera does have it's own UI, why not support the sidebar we know from the Presto versions... or in other words: Why reinvent the wheel and build your own UI, if there is no real benefit from it?

I read through the source code here: https://chromium.googlesource.com/experimental/chromium/src/+/master/chrome/common/pref_names.cc

Then I saw that the use of the system theme ("extensions.theme.use_system") is obviously Linux specific. It seems the guys porting it over to FreeBSD/PC-BSD made it possible by a patch.

Still, I edited my "%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Opera Software\Opera Stable\Preferences" file and added the following to the "extensions" section:

"theme": {
"use_system": true
}

It did not work, as it is obviously not implemented on Windows. Maybe I was also adding it in the wrong (global) place. So I thought, maybe I need to specify such things in the context of a theme itself. So I created myself a Chrome theme that was supposed to change the window frame color to dark grey.

Upon attempting import of the .crx theme file into Opera, it would recognize it as an extension, but would ultimately fail in the same way it does when trying to install other themes meant for Chrome:

"Extension installation failed. Package is invalid. Details: 'Extension type is not supported.'."

For Christs sake, I have seen people complaining about the new Opera taking away their freedoms, and I'm starting to see why. Can't even make the browser NOT be "blue"...

I don't know what else one could try...

Greetings!

Ok, here is a question from an Opera 12 "Presto lover". I'm still using Opera 12.16 natively on Windows XP 32-Bit as well as Windows XP Pro x64 edition (NT 5.2 kernel), Win7 and also Linux (Debian, CentOS) as well as BSD UNIX (FreeBSD/PC-BSD).

Now, I'm giving the webkit-based Opera 20 its first chance on Windows. I don't like it yet, but I'll give it its chance. Can't have it on Linux right now anyway, and the glorious "real" multi-platform days of Opera, where you could get a version for Solaris on UltraSPARC or BSD UNIX are likely over anyway.

Now, here is my simple question after all that unnecessary information:

How can I get rid of the blue frame / window borders? I would like to have them in my systems style or any color I choose (like grey).

By system style I mean, that Opera should respect my systems theme, which I usually switch to pure GDI (no Luna on XP, no Aero on 7), so basically "Windows 2000 style". On Linux I'd say "it should respect my window managers window decorations". But there is no Linux version atm anyway.

Is there any way for the new Opera to better integrate into my Windows desktop environment? The bright blue frame is just too flashy and distracting, as my themes are rather greyish.

I tried searching the web for solutions, but couldn't really find anything. Also I tried about:flags to no avail.

Thank you for your help!