Dear Developers,

Yes, a year is a long time in website development which is why it astounds me that you have not got the bookmark system sorted out yet as it was in Opera 12. It surely can not be that big a deal and as it does seem to be a major sticking point in people transferring over from Opera 12 to Opera 25 or simply going to a totally different web-browser it seems somewhat short-sighted.

What is the reason why the bookmark set-up has not been put into Opera 25 properly? There must be some reason.

Thank you.

Although it might be too late for me: my Opera 12.17 has just started crashing every 20minutes even having this website causing the crash.

Me too - it started last weekend and now I have to listen to any iPlayer stuff via different browser - I'm using 12.17 but looks like the newer one is having problems.

Looks like I'll be moving to another browser permanently very soon as I'm having other crashing issues and I do not trust Opera enough to have a smooth ride if I use the newer browser judging by all of the comments on this forum.

Once again, a shame after 15years I'll be going elsewhere because the people at Opera have lost their way or whatever they seem to be doing.

The main reason people are sticking with Opera 12 is that the interface and options are perfectly fit for purpose for non-tablets.

Too often people say 'you can't stop progress' when progress seems to be 'remove useful things from an application and most people will just accept it even if it isn't as good as previously.

Speed is not an overall issue it is usability etc.

Anyway, I don't want to get into that 'argument' - when 'they' are still trying to get the new Opera functionality upto the old one even after years you know something is wrong.

Thanks for the feedback from others!

It does work OK in Firefox.

Not just me then.

Ah, one other thing - it is the 'listen again' part that crashes my computer - it seems the live stream works perfectly.

This one specifically crashes the PC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0072v72

(no comment on my listening choices please!)

Details from 'About Opera' detail:

Version 12.17
Build 1863
Platform Win32
System Windows 8
Browser identification

Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.17

I have Flash version 15,0,0,152 installed.

My pc is actually a 64bit machine.

Thanks!

I have only just up-dated from 12.16 to 12.17 because I found out it was a security fix.

Now the BBC radio iPlayer in the UK crashes and closes Opera - it has only done this since the update.

I would roll-back to 12.16 but unsure of security risks.

I really do not want to have to use Opera for everything I do apart from iPlayer which I would have to use another browser for at the same time.

I had totally forgotten about the 'new' Chrome based Opera. I read all the stuff about the Beta version and basically it would seem all the same complaints are still there - especially the lack of text-cascading bookmarking with the replacement by the speed dial set-up which looks so laborious and unwieldy I'm not even going there - I do not need pretty pictures to go to favourited sites - in fact it is probably the worst method I could imagine.

Lots of people saying that there are plenty of extensions to download to get old functionality back is just mind-bogglingly crazy: no software developer worth their salt would remove useful functionality and then have 3rd party extensions fill the gaps.

The problem with software development these days is that they have been blinded by the shiny new visuals rather than stopping and working out what a browser should be doing...which is what Opera 12 did very well...a darn shame they could not have kept developing that version.

Having seen the Youtube video of the new one I does not grab me...although with all the snap zooms and pans across the screen I have no real idea what it can do apart from being more suited for touch screens.