I have been misjudging the current opera. 23, the one I'm using, is no 12, but it manages to deal with the web pages, which is the primary! The lack of many, MANY features was frustrating at first, but with the help of this forum I've actually managed to muster together something with extensions.. I still do feel 23 is missing some stuff, but for the basic and primary needs it does better than 12. I accept the changes because I accepted that 12 is useless a long time ago, when I switched to firefox. And I don't need to use firefox anymore! :yes: With that, it is a shame how animus of an experience the transition from 12 to 23 has been made for users..This is not friendly, rather violent. But, in the end, it works AFTER you get to know the new. So, I want to thank this forum, and namely @lem729 for guiding me and others. Might be weird or pompous of me to write this, but I don't care; after bitching so much on this forum (though, not without a reason) I feel like also bringing out the ups.
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RE: What percentage of people are adapting well to the new Opera?Opera for Windows
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RE: What percentage of people are adapting well to the new Opera?Opera for Windows
I wonder what kind of research did they conduct, or did they decide to take a leap of faith with this. No bookmarks...they must be very confident in themselves, in their role as the innovators or pioneers..
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RE: What percentage of people are adapting well to the new Opera?Opera for Windows
Ohkay, I've been meddling and unpleasantly discovering many things in the past few days since I started using 23. I am kind of, KIND OF, getting the hand of managing these ridiculous add-ons, extensions..I've rambled about this in another thread, mostly about bookmarks. Just to manage bookmarks more or less conveniently I need two extensions..And I might actually need one more..That's only one thing: managing the bookmarks that I am now saving.
When I started using this version of opera I had no idea of what'd wait for me. So..I didn't know that I can't import bookmarks easily..but I did get the ones from opera.12 with the importer... so after tussling about with all the unexpected surprises; I wanted to also import my firefox bookmarks. I thought it'd be easy if I'd reinstall opera.12 (since i'd uninstalled it in the meantime) and import them there and from 12 I'd easily get them to 23 via importer..but no, I had to uninstall 23 with all my saved user data that I've accumulate throughout the last days. Including the new bookmarks I've saved exclusively on 23.. Which meant I had to copy the html code in notepad to later re-save them when I'm done with re-installing the 23.
So now finally I have my bookmarks...and a clinking-clanking system of extensions to save them.
On another note, the new opera is much more reliable performance-wise.Still, now that I'm building something up for myself, I can't help but to think with a sense of dismay when I consider all I am going through to actually make this work somehow, only so that later there will be the opera.25 that will have the bookmarks system in it once again. Or at least that's the rumours I've heard. And for what have I toiled here, then? Only to dump it and move to the 25? That thought makes me despair! One version of opera makes me waste time on making it actually workable, when the next one comes along already set up. This is a badly planned strategy on operas side.
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RE: How do I import bookmarks from Firefox to opera 20Opera for Windows
Not to mention, Tidy does have a shortcut for saving bookmarks (alt+A), but this way i cant choose the destination folder for the bookmark. So I'd have to go and manually drag it to one, which is again just plain bad design. Same with when I click manually on the heart symbol to save a bookmark and it asks me whether stash or bookmark bar, in addition to popping up the bar it doesn't let me choose a folder for the bookmark, so I have to go back to find it somewhere in the bottom and then drag it to the correct folder..
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RE: How do I import bookmarks from Firefox to opera 20Opera for Windows
I have to say, after using Tidy for a couple of days...Goddamned! Why would anyone get rid off normal bookmarks tree and leave the users with this silliness? Seriously, I could be the the stupidest user, but: when I want to save bookmark (for which I'm not sure there is a shortcut, is there any?) it asks whether it should go to stash or to the bookmarks bar. I choose the bar because that's where my bookmarks are, albeit I've hidden the bar because it is distracting in many ways. And that's where Tidy gets its bookmarks. BUT!, this is where the stupidity comes in, when i chose to save the bookmark in the bar, after clicking on that option, the bar just pops up again on my interface. And I seriously don't want it on my interface. So now, every time after I have added a bookmark to bookmark bar so I could reach for it through Tidy, I have to afterwards go alt+p every damned time to hide the bookmarks bar again, because it pops up every time I add a bookmark to it...Explain me this: is this necessary? Why would anyone make such a thing and launch it? Why not just keep it traditional in certain areas (BOOKMARKS)? This is in no way user friendly! Seriously hope they'll launch the next one soon and take into account my, and many others', lament).
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RE: How do I import bookmarks from Firefox to opera 20Opera for Windows
Yes I can toggle it, still it is inconvenient. Much more than having a bookmark tree that I can make appear and disappear with a simple ctrl+b. Going to the settings every time for that is unnecessarily tedious. I did install Tidy, a bit robust, but way better than the bar. With that, yes, I can install add-ons for bookmarks, tab stacks and everything, it, nevertheless, feels like I'm finishing up what was left undone by the developers. Letting you in on my personal history with opera: I loved it and hated it at the same time - it had all the shortcuts and levers and tricks for my taste I wouldn't have even thought to wish for before opera, no other browser has made me feel so integrated. But in time it revealed it's weakness to me, too. So I gradually switched to others. Now, coming back to the present: I am voicing my opinion with the intention of demonstrating that there are many and loads of people with this stand point. Thanks for bringing out the future course of opera, you are making a valid point. I hope to keep by opera, for all the fuzzy memories I have with it, seriously, and I still stand by my point of voicing my opinion.
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RE: keyboard shortcuts for speed dialSuggestions and feature requests
Concurring with the OP. Speed dial shortcuts, in my experience, account for half of the serviceability of speed dial.
@linuxmint7 - if you had more speed dial icons only the first nine would be accessible through keyboard shortcuts.
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RE: POLL: Tab bar features? Tab stacking / grouping?Opera for Windows
Tab stacking: yes!
Maybe even the good old click-switch between tabs - click on the current tab and it'll switch to the previous tab you were on. That one was a really helpful one when working. -
RE: How do I import bookmarks from Firefox to opera 20Opera for Windows
Point 1: The bookmark bar is a nuisance, I want to have as little things visible on my browser as possible, so nothing would disrupt my view. Also, it is mentally exhausting, I don't want to have my bookmarks and folders exposed to anyone like that.
Point 2: I need to have bookmarks as visually concise as possible, this was the case in Opera 12, that I last used. - A list of all my bookmarks and folders with a simple ctrl+b.
Point 3: The speed dial was only convenient when I could actually use the shortcuts (ctr + 1 until 9), without that the speed dial loses half of its serviceability. Like mentioned before - speed dial (even with the ability to create folders) is no replacement for bookmarks. It is not visually concise, which is exasperating. Speed dial is complementary to bookmarks.And in the end..Imagine internet users that had some good memories with previous Operas. Then they are introduced to this and they are expected to fight for bookmarks? This is ludicrously stupid! What kind of a service is this? To the ones telling us to "get with the times" ..you are just ignorant, if it doesn't bother you it doesn't prove there isn't a problem. Especially when there are so many that report that there, in fact, is a lack.