@leocg

A proper title bar:

Is there any plans for a proper title bar?
It is really difficult to be productive in Opera in maximized window mode when working in a Remote Desktop environment.
Yes it's very common these days when users are connecting to office computer etc.
Remote Desktop title bar covers Opera tabs and it's not always an option to hide it.
Also if the tabs are pinned then I don't see any page title.

Is it possible to implement a proper title bar that can be toggled on/off?

Another question: What happened to "use system color on top bar"?

@xirit32

The last screenshot is from Firefox Quantum 59.

I know that the remote desktop bar can be unpinned but there are scenarios where users are switching a lot between the remote desktop window and the local computer.

I don't understand why Chromium based browsers cannot give the option to turn it on. How hard can it be?
Who decides all this, really? Why be so narrow minded?

I guess the future look bright for Mozilla. They seem listen more to the end users needs and real world scenarios.

@leocg

I know what you mean but the big question is why wasn't the title bar implemented from very the beginning?
Somebody tried to be clever, too clever I guess and now we are stucked with the consequences!
After all the title bar is a common and familiar way to the windows user interface. It always have been.

@leocg
Firefox has one! Take a look at the above screenshot. It has to be enabled but it has one.
(In FF Menu => Customize = "Enable Title Bar")

@xirit32

Nothing of what you wrote is some real arguments to not to have an optional title bar that can be turned on/off like in Firfox.
There can be many scenarios when it's really needed to have one and It's not like it consumes 10000 lines of code.

@leocg
Firefox has one! Take a look at the above screenshot. It has to be enabled but it has one.
(In FF Menu => Customize = "Enable Title Bar")

@leocg

I know what you mean but the big question is why wasn't the title bar implemented from very the beginning?
Somebody tried to be clever, too clever I guess and now we are stucked with the consequences!
After all the title bar is a common and familiar way to the windows user interface. It always have been.

@xirit32

The last screenshot is from Firefox Quantum 59.

I know that the remote desktop bar can be unpinned but there are scenarios where users are switching a lot between the remote desktop window and the local computer.

I don't understand why Chromium based browsers cannot give the option to turn it on. How hard can it be?
Who decides all this, really? Why be so narrow minded?

I guess the future look bright for Mozilla. They seem listen more to the end users needs and real world scenarios.

@leocg

A proper title bar:

Is there any plans for a proper title bar?
It is really difficult to be productive in Opera in maximized window mode when working in a Remote Desktop environment.
Yes it's very common these days when users are connecting to office computer etc.
Remote Desktop title bar covers Opera tabs and it's not always an option to hide it.
Also if the tabs are pinned then I don't see any page title.

Is it possible to implement a proper title bar that can be toggled on/off?

Another question: What happened to "use system color on top bar"?

That is very poor. how are you expecting me to come to your browser if you don't import the bookmarks!

Not only it's poor it's so stupid I cannot find words. Opera is very stubborn about this and they won't tell the users when they gonna implement a proper bookmark manager with true import and export functions.

The new "fresh" Chromium based Opera 15 was released in the beginning of July 2013. After 7 months they have still not implemented a proper bookmark manager to be able to import or export bookmarks as HTML file and there is no extension that can do this either.

If you take the Comodo Dragon Internet Browser or SRware Iron brower, both based on Chromium they all have a nice traditional proper bookmark managers like Google Chrome so it's not that Opera cannot do it also, it's just politics to piss off old long time Opera users. There is no other explanation!

Can somebody explain this links?

www.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=12.18-99����

www.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=12.17

It says Opera Opera 12.17 and 12.18-99‚ª‚— for Windows 32 or 64 bit but when I want to download it,
it downloads the Opera_Mobile_9.5_Beta_2.sis

Is there Opera 12.17-18 at all? If not, what's the reason of that page?

Originally posted by leushino:

With search being what it is today, there's really no need for copious numbers of bookmarks anymore... particularly numbering in the 1000's. That number is utterly ridiculous and I would guess that these "more powerful users" haven't a clue as to whether these

I really hope you are joking!
Of course not everybody needs to have 1000+ bookmarks but many many people do.

As for me I manage a lot of websites as a webmaster, I also manage multiples blogs and Google+ groups. It's about techology, music, artist and other things.
I need to bookmark a lot of sites every day when I find something interesting to blog about in the near future. Sources, photos etc...
It can be about an artist or an upcoming album/track release.
When I blog about music and artists I also need many times to cross verify information.
I don't always find all the information I need in a finger snap. But when I find it I need to categorize it and save it in folders AND as bookmarks.
Yes I have many bookmarks and I delete also a lot of course but those I have they need to be "fresh" as a blog resource and easy to access to.

So the basic question remains: Why on earth refuses Opera to implement a proper bookmark manager for people that really need it!!
It could be inactive if Opera is afraid that it will confuse new users but nevertheless, IT SHOULD BE THERE!

Can you give an example of any other modern browser that lack this basic and fundamental feature???

So be careful when you say that 1000+ bookmarks is utterly ridiculous because your needs and view is not the only one on the internet!

When you read articles like this:
http://www.ghacks.net/2013/11/04/opera-19-developer-update-enable-operas-power-user-mode/
it really makes you wonder where Opera puts its focus!

WOW! They have developed a task manager which is nice in a way but shouldn't they have put more focus on lets say...
a proper bookmark manager?

According to this post:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1793312&t=1386291712&page=1#comment14997832
"Opera's user survey results indicated that 90% (sic) of users never added a single bookmark!"

Now the question rises: Are people REALLY more interested in a task manager rather than a proper bookmark manager? I don't think so!
With a "proper bookmark manager" I mean a manager that can handle 1000+ bookmarks, import/export to and from other browsers.
That has a search feature and can handle folders etc.

For me Opera Presto cannot fulfill my needs anymore (I have used it since version 3.5 1998) because too many compatibility problems especially with social media sites like FB, Google+, Thumblr and many others.

After so many versions with the Opera webkit out there: 15, 16, 17, 18 and almost 19 now and still there is no way to import AND manage a default "bookmarks.html" file with 1000+ bookmarks!

I guess the features in dev version 19 really shows where Opera puts its focus. It's rather on cool features as task manager but not on a crucial and important features like a proper bookmark manager.

No offense Opera but I think your survey about 90% never added a single bookmark is just totally wrong.
For instance many Opera users used IE or FF as they primary browser where they kept they bookmarks and used Opera only as an optional browser.

And come on! How long should it take to code a bookmark manager for Opera? Really.
A high school student with developer skills can do it in lets say 2-3 days. But why do it from scratch when you can just take Google Chrome open source.

Well Opera, you behavior it's surely very weird and disappointing!