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Rogue Opera 29 Auto Update

  • I've wanted to have an option to block or allow automatic updates because I'va had updates go bad in Firefox and was forced to download an installer to downgrade to fix the issue.I update Firefox by downloading an installer for each new version instead of just updating.

  • My problem with auto-update feature started with my firewall.

    As implemented, updates create a new folder with a version number, so I've to authorize manually every time it changes. Without folder exceptions, my current firewall / antivirus will detect executable changes and require new authorization anyway, that and the fact I try to avoid possibly unwanted changes / errors, leads me to both block and disable the auto-update.

    Also, I don't know how Windows deals with it, specially WinSxS wich has a tendency to grow and grow...

    Unfortunately, the option to disable it is hidden as a command line parameter. Would be nicer to leave such a control explicit on the advanced configurations.

    In my opinion, a program that updates all the time is premature, either bloating or degrading or needs a more clearly defined target - Or all of those, wich is bad because Opera is great. The fact the makers wan't to push updates (by hiding the opt-out) concerns me.

    Just to add my two bits.

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    Unfortunately, the option to disable it is hidden as a command line parameter. Would be nicer to leave such a control explicit on the advanced configurations. ...

    More than 'unfortunate', it's a disaster waiting to happen. Because the first time you invoke the browser apart from the shortcut (eg: click a link in an eMail), Opera will open directly without consulting the command niceties you added to some shortcut somehere, and any pending auto-update will suddenly be thrust upon you. There simply isn't any "clean" workaround short of an update-blocking control built right into the browser itself. Everything else suffers from some techno-"gotcha" bypass path that can suddenly appear and bite you in a painful part of your anatomy - usually at the worst possible time or in the worst possible way. FULL accessible controls for a piece of software should reside in the software itself, not require remedial tampering with all manner of file names or system/security settings. It's called "sound software design".

  • There's a flag, opera://flags, thats in Opera 30 that I didn't notice in 28: 'Ping autoupdate server' Pings the autoupdate server on first shutdown. Default: enabled.

    From the description might this be a way to disable auto update? I did a light search of the Developer browser blog, but didn't find much other than it was new for 30. I've disabled it to see what happens.

  • The problem, like with so many work-arounds, is that even if it were to work to block subsequent updates, there are no guarantees that some other mechanism couldn't over-ride it to force an update or that it might even be reset by something else. What is needed is a clear, simple user auto-updating option in the browser controls to allow, notify-and-block, or block-without-notifying. You know... like every other piece of software on the planet except certain Chrome-derivative web browsers.

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