Opera 17 - bookmarks and other troubles
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by handsomechip:
Ever hear of "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"?
Physician, heal thyself! :whistle:
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Deleted User last edited by
That's odd... it works for me. Are we to assume then that the usual geek crowd who use the Opera browser can't figure out how to do a little research on their own without having to have their hands held? I've admitted to not being nearly as computer literate as many of the complainers of the new Opera browser but even I could figure out how to find the information regarding Opera Next without the necessity of having a "pinned guide" provided by the moderators and/or those responsible for the overall website. I think Pesala's suggestions are very realistic.
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by handsomechip:
you do understand the only reason Richard and I are posting "venom" is IN RESPONSE to the snarky, insulting behavior by you and people like you?
The only reason you're posting personal attacks violating the TOS is because you failed to read the rules that you agreed to on signing up, or because you need some help with anger management.
What would have been the result of post 1 by you, if you had found a previous thread on lost bookmarks in 12.16 and fixed the issue yourself, or failing that, posted in that thread to say, “Hi guys, I tried this, but it didn't work for me. What else can I try?” Or, if you had started a new thread asking for help, “I searched for help on lost bookmarks, but couldn't find a relevant thread because I am using an old version, 12.16.”
The fault of Mr Angry Poster is his alone. Other users will respond according to the original post. No one will get insulted or flamed if they don't post insults and flame-bait.
Originally posted by scratchspace:
a strictly moderated forum is best for everyone
It is. This thread would have been locked or removed by the third post. xyzzy80 hasn't even posted again, so the rest is surely a waste of everyone's time and energy, unless Mr Angry Poster has finally learnt that ranting or venting is not the best way to get help on a user2user support forum, or any support forum.
Fact is, xyzzy80 came to rant, not to seek a solution to his problem.
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frenzie last edited by
Originally posted by scratchspace:
That relentless injunction is, in my view, only making a bad situation worse.
Some would call it tone trolling. That being said, the way these one-post wonders are all showing up to badmouth Pesala and leushino smells of unwashed socks.
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Deleted User last edited by
Alright, you make a reasonable point. There's no question but that Opera handled this entire situation poorly. They released an unfinished browser with relatively little information regarding their plans. In addition the download page makes it difficult to find the latest Presto version and it would be easy for someone looking to upgrade his older version to mistakenly upgrade to the Next version creating all kinds of confusion. I agree... it was pretty slip-shod.
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Deleted User last edited by
Once again, I find myself agreeing with everything you've said here. It just makes sense. Maybe I need to go lie down. I'm generally not this agreeable.
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handsomechip last edited by
Originally posted by Pesala:
Originally posted by handsomechip:
you do understand the only reason Richard and I are posting "venom" is IN RESPONSE to the snarky, insulting behavior by you and people like you?
The only reason you're posting personal attacks violating the TOS is because you failed to read the rules that you agreed to on signing up, or because you need some help with anger management.
Who cares about the rules, you useless pedantic tool? Especially if they allow people like you to be condescending, insulting pricks but don't allow anyone to respond in kind! And as if your beloved rules are even enforced at all. Some rules, some community, some browser. Enjoy your iron-fist stewardship of this forum, basement liege, backseat moderator! Bye-bye now.
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by handsomechip:
Who cares about the rules,
I do, because it makes for a harmonious community, and encourages Mr Angry Poster to leave, even before he gets banned. Your posts show your true reasons for posting here — you lost your bookmarks, and just wanted to vent. I sincerely hope you find a solution to your problem.
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skipme last edited by
Wow, I just waisted 30 mins of my life reading this. You guys transformed this rant post in a who-has-more-testosteron fight (its against the rules to call it the other way). I agree that the rules must be respected, but the OP is not about that and you are way off-topic (rules?).
On topic, I am a happy opera user since '99 and I must say that now I'm very disappointed. Opera was always innovating and most of the features that we currently use in browsers (any) were pioneered by Opera. The first time I launched Opera 17 I was like What the f-word is this POS????? Its like Internet explorer with a different logo. I will be using 12.16 until they integrate Opera Link, I can't live without it. -
A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by skipme:
On topic
Your POSt is also off-topic — do some searching, and read some more useful threads than this one. Or, just use Opera 12.16 if you prefer to remain ignorant of the real issues. Synch will return in time — they're working on it.
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A Former User last edited by
Wow...
As a newbie to the forums here, I am really surprised and somewhat taken aback at the level of hostility towards a fairly straightforward question. I have just installed a new Opera browser, not upgraded, and with v.18 as my first experience of opera i was also facing the same confusion over bookmarks (and confusion over the terminology. IE: how do you know to search for quick access bar if you dont know that's what it's called?).
Anyway, lets be much more supportive on here please? If you feel the need to be condescending or that a question is somehow beneath you then simply dont waste anyone's time in replying, easy. Unhelpful replies are simply that - unhelpful.For the record, I also searched operas own help area and found i to be next to useless, hence i found my way here.
Cheers
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by jadasa78:
I am really surprised and somewhat taken aback at the level of hostility towards a fairly straightforward question
It wasn't a straightforward question — it was a rant. We have seen far too many over the last three months. Politely ask a straightforward question like this guy, and you will get a polite and straightforward answer, if not from me, then from any one of dozens of helpful users on this forum.
We understand the frustration of the big changes caused by the new Opera, but we are only users — we do not work for Opera, and we have no responsibility for when it was released, or how it was designed, so don't be too surprised if hostility is reciprocated.
Replies that explain how to get a useful reply are extremely helpful, if the OP refuses to follow the advice to read the rules and search before posting, that is their own fault.
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Ekvinox last edited by
Ok... do we need to post a freaking picture.. the qba is nothing like what we need... why ffs why did they throw out or hide this stuf?
How can i make opera 17 look like this?
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luxor last edited byOriginally posted by Ekvinox:
How can i make opera 17 look like this?
Simple answer is, you can't.
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by Ekvinox:
just wanted to hear what Mr. Pesala has to say about this...
So you were just trolling.
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by Ekvinox:
Just like u are without showing us a solution to our problems..
I already gave you the solution in my first post: “Rule #1 Search before posting.” The forum search is really not that bad. If not for all these rant threads it would be very easy to find solutions. As it is, searching should take no more than 5 minutes. Luxor already gave the short answer. If you want something as close as possible then the QAB is the best solution.
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berng last edited by
Originally posted by Ekvinox:
Just like u are without showing us a solution to our problems...
Actually, he often provides solutions.
Unlike you, asking a question you know the answer to. Troll. GET A LIFE.
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Ekvinox last edited by
Originally posted by BernG:
Originally posted by Ekvinox:
Just like u are without showing us a solution to our problems...
Actually, he often provides solutions.
Unlike you, asking a question you know the answer to. Troll. GET A LIFE.
What the fak has my life to do anything with this? Do you know my life? No, so stfu.
I just wanted a freaking answer from an unfriendly mod. I knew the answer, which was you can't get it yet, cause I tried everything suggested. but I also hoped that i was wrong. I spent 3 days trying to make Opera 18 work half as good as the 12.16... Didn't turn out like it should have, except for the site compatibility, but thats not really an Opera feature, its the webkits... Opera Chromium is not a ready product it should be BETA. Not a full stable release...
If you put out a new version of software and remove 90% of it's functionality just cause you want to use a new engine, you don't release it as a full product. I understand many people don't use allot of the functionality, but I loved Opera just because of it. It was different it was better. Hope it will get better again... But now it's just pain and the 12.16 just doesn't work like it used to...
