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Opera 17 - bookmarks and other troubles

  • Thank you Pesala for providing something useful. I did search, read many, many posts, all unhelpful. Sure there was helpful info available within searches all along - IF I clicked on the right link. Now, after I've wasted a saturday am wading through all the noise I've finally had enough and will go somewhere more user friendly. Thank you very much.

  • I had the same experience as the OP. So I did search and this is the first page I came across. Many thanks to the selfrighteous arrogant tools who have enough time to post derogatory comments yet not enough time to simply say, I know the answer - it's here. Have a nice day and reciprocate if I ever get stuck. Grow up, and I hope your pubes fall out!

  • I'm trying opera as I am looking for something other than Chrome. I had the same problem as OP. This was the first result I got on google and all I see is childish behavior. This does not seem like a fun community, guess I'll give firefox a try.

  • Bookmarks are a major requirement of Opera and now they are gone. I am assured by Opera that they are available on the .html file but 90% are goneAll previous files are gone. My technical business depends on these bookmarks organised into folders and they are gone. I have used Opera since v3, been loyal and pushed the product hard but now I look stupid. Does two hundred book marks become anywhere near workable in the speed dial format? No. Do the help files explain how Opera 17 works? No. Opera 17 is the shortest suicide note in history and many customers are now alienated. I will go back in release numbers for a while hoping that Opera sees sense and creates a customer friendly browser, I sincerely hope they do.

  • And by the way. The Speed Dial system really sucks.

  • This is the first result in google searching for Opera 17 bookmarks.

    I've been using Opera as my main browser since version 9 and have been loving it, despite some quirks, now it's a Chrome wannabe, less bookmarks. The Speed Dial is a very useful feature which I use, but it's no substitute for bookmarks. I was under the impression that bookmarks would come after some time, but it doesn't look that way. It looks like I will be bidding a sad farewell to Opera. It's totally lost everything that made it Opera.

    Good work Opera team, drive away your users and you can pull the plug, unlike Google who pulled the plug on reader with active but forewarned users.

  • Originally posted by wrightpmcl:

    Does two hundred book marks become anywhere near workable in the speed dial format? No.

    Agreed, but you can import your old bookmarks to the Quick Access Bar for bookmarks. It's similar to the Bookmarks Bar, but with Drag and Drop support. Bookmarks menu and organiser should come later.

  • Originally posted by xyzzy80:

    I installed Opera 17.0 and tried to find my bookmarks only to find - they do not exist anymore? I am sure that cannot be, why would a company release a web browser that doesn't "support" bookmarks? Can anyone tell me where they are hidden? The quick link bar at the top also seems to have disappeared. When i try to go to settings there are not many options.
    Opera has always been tough love, for the tab recycling bin, mouse gestures and generally great usability i put up with troubles loading certain sites, playing certain files and whatnot, but it seems the cons start outweighing the pros more and more now. Are there plans to improve the next version of Opera to function like a webbrowser? Hassle as it is i think i will just install the firefox addons for mouse gestures and the recycling bin and move over to that program. After something like 10 years Opera just isnt worth it anymore i guess.
    Sorry for the rant, but Jesus, that 5 minutes of Opera 17 were really shocking to me.

    i f they were honest , they would say they forgot to add BOOKMARKS into the new version

  • In the address field of opera: flags typed
    Enter in the search field "quick" and set the "Quick Access Bar" to "Enabled".

  • Originally posted by sandos45:

    i f they were honest , they would say they forgot to add BOOKMARKS into the new version

    Since they are honest they said that they chose not to add bookmarks to Opera 15 because their survey results showed that 90% of users don't add bookmarks, but later, by popular demand from the Blogs and forums, they decided to add them back for those who want them.

  • I am flabbergasted at the incivility and unhelpfullness of this forum. I too have been using opera for years..Chrome kept crashing...firefox was a mess and Opera was just right...until now. I have read the entire thread and still do not know how to add a bookmark bar. I use the bookmark bar to click to save a page to instapaper and another bookmarklet to record a you tube video. Is there anyone here who can explain in three or four steps how to add a bookmark bar to this version of Opera 17 so I can drag bookmarklets to it? This page was also the first page I came to in a Google search. If you can not help me please do not bother to reply at all. Thank you!

  • In the address bar type: Opera:flags

    Scroll down and enable Quick Access Bar

    Relaunch the browser

    Click on Opera and go down to Settings

    Scroll down to User Interface and click on "Show Quick Access Bar"

    Now drag and drop your favorite sites from the address bar to the QAB

  • Thank you Leushino! That worked. I appreciate your help and time!

  • Cool. Thanks for the update. 🙂

  • @PeterMcG
    Thanks man!

  • I can't find the quick access bar and I only have preferences not settings... Are we all looking at the same Opera? Is it possible my Mac version is comprehensively different to everyone else's Windows versions?

  • Originally posted by HorizonCkr:

    Thank you Pesala for providing something useful. I did search, read many, many posts, all unhelpful. Sure there was helpful info available within searches all along - IF I clicked on the right link. Now, after I've wasted a saturday am wading through all the noise I've finally had enough and will go somewhere more user friendly. Thank you very much.

    I've also been totally shocked as to how completely difficult people "with the knowledge" are to those looking for guidance.

    I too have spent the last hour fumbling my way through v17 (jumped from the lovely v12) and am totally stumped. Opera is now so completely and fundamentally different that I don't recognise my previously-favourite browser any more.

    Arrogant comments like "search before you post" defeats the whole purpose of a discussion forum. If there is a discussion on the topic, lust link to it. If there's an explanation in the help files, copy and paste them into a response. Be solution-based, not problem-based.

    I've read through the help sections. I even read up the section of importing my bookmarks into the speed dial, but I made no connection to the fact that speed dial is the replacement to bookmarks, not just a few favourites. This is not my failing, but a failing of the features not being properly explained and presented to new users (which we all are).

    My next problem is I can't access Opera link to syncronise my ex-bookmarks with my mobile Opera. I read that I must just click on the cloud icon in the bottom left crner of the browser window – but I have no icons or status bar at all at the bottom.

    Because of the "only ask clever questions" attitude here, I'm too scared to even ask advice...

  • Originally posted by sdhampton:

    I've also been totally shocked as to how completely difficult people "with the knowledge" are to those looking for guidance.

    You just joined, we have been answering these same questions about Bookmarks and QAB almost daily since Opera 15 was released. A quick search of this forum for "Bookmarks" will find several threads with the answer, so why should anyone provide a link or repeat the answer yet again?

    It is too bad if you think people are arrogant to remind new users to follow the forum rules.

    Anyone who does their homework before ranting like the OP, but is still stuck will get polite help soon enough.

    Originally posted by sdhampton:

    I made no connection to the fact that speed dial is the replacement to bookmarks,

    It's not. The Quick Access Bar is the replacement for the Bookmarks Bar. It's best to import your bookmarks to the QAB.

    Originally posted by HorizonCkr:

    First I went to "help" and typed in "bookmarks" - no help there.

    Really? This is what I see now, though maybe it has been updated since your post.

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  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    It's not. The Quick Access Bar is the replacement for the Bookmarks Bar. It's best to import your bookmarks to the QAB.

    But quick access bar only shows a few buttons, so you're right, it is a replacement for the Bookmarks Bar... but I think we're talking about the bookmarks menu – I certainly am.

    And by the way, I've just done a search for "Quick Access Bar" in both Google and Opera's help.

    Opera's help produced only 3 results – neither of which actually discussed the quick access bar so how am I supposed to be so informed as to not need to ask stupid questions on forums.

    Google pointed me to the forum where I've learnt that I have to "hack" into Opera to activate it as an "experimental" feature? This is what's bugging us so much – common features have been deactivated/removed/disabled and hidden away to be found by spending hours pouring through the forums for hidden features.

    As for being new here – actually my account is new so I can syncronise with my new smartphone. My old account is several years old, but Opera has been so straightforward to use that I've never needed to post on the forum for help.

    Speaking of which... how do I sync when there is no cloud icon in the bottom left corner of my browser (as the help documentation tells me there should be)? Do I also have to hack Opera to turn on a promoted feature?

  • Originally posted by sdhampton:

    Speaking of which... how do I sync when there is no cloud icon in the bottom left corner of my browser

    You don't. This has also turned experimental and cannot even be activated yet.