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    • bothie
      bothie last edited by

      In 2018, Opera started to force CSD on us. Many usery might not be aware of that or don't care or even like it, but for some users, this actually breaks things. I am one of those users. The issue was debated at that time but as to my knowledge, it wasn't reverted (or made configurable). Since that time. I am stuck with using Opera 54, because I really need server-side decoration. Question: Has this issue been fixed in the mean time, does current Opera version allow me to switch off CSD? Or do I have to turn my backs on Opera all together now?

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      • vr51
        vr51 last edited by

        Nope, this is still an issue in Opera 68.0.3618.173. There is a workaround that uses a Window Rule to force the title bar to display. It's not perfect but it helps.

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        • bothie
          bothie last edited by

          Thx, for the update. I feared this. Oh, and of course, I know that hack. my problem is not how to add my WM's decoration but how to get rid of Opera's one. But I guess, I have to face it. Opera was a great browser in the old days, but now it's the same shit as all the other ones.

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          • vr51
            vr51 last edited by vr51

            Tend to agree. I use Linux because I like to manage for myself the way my desktop and windows display and behave. Linux is very much about freedom of choice. Here in Opera we have a team of developers who insist they must control the browsing experience to the extent they enforce window behaviours and decorations -- well, lack of decorations -- on us. If I wanted to use tyrannical software I would use Windows or Mac.

            I enjoy the Opera experience, in the main, but there are annoyances that will push me away from Opera. I want to be in control of my browser. Devs must not insist I suffer their preferences that they seem to choose for artistic rather than utility purposes. I left Firefox for similar reasons. I'm 90% certain that this year I will relegate Opera to the status of 'For Junk Sites Only' and move to Vivaldi as my main browser.

            Other annoyances include forced search engine adds, forced closure of open tabs when the browser (usually my computer fainting through exhaustion) crashes several times in a row, and developer unwillingness to listen to end users.

            For the most part Opera is a really nice browser. I'd happily pay $12 per year to unlock my browser 😉

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            • nimn2020
              nimn2020 @vr51 last edited by

              @vr51 said in Opera and CSD (cliend side decoration):

              Here in Opera we have a team of developers who insist they must control the browsing experience to the extent they enforce window behaviours and decorations

              Can you ask, please, those developers at lease to provide window borders.
              So we Linux users can resize Opera window. Right now border exist only on one side and disappear sometime after few use.

              Thank you.

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