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Opera Version:58.0.3135.117 Opera is up to date but Videos don't play

  • I don't get you...
    Regardless of browser and html5 capabilities/implementations, do you want to use webm on youtube or not?

    This addon is an... enhanced version of h264ify and nothing more. All they do is block youtube's codec detection, and all is done via js. This way, youtube plays in whatever codec you "allow" it to play. You can check it in youtube.com/html5 .

    On top of the above, and assuming a browser supports all the codecs youtube can use, youtube forces the usage of webm for the videos, because it uses less bandwidth for the same resolution.
    However, unlike h264, webm is not hardware accelerated, and that is noticeable with its bugger cpu usage, which results in choppy playback on weaker machines, bigger battery consumption on laptops etc.

    And all that is just theories for opera, since it does not support h264 by default.

  • @jimunderscorep said in Opera Version:58.0.3135.117 Opera is up to date but Videos don't play:

    that is noticeable with its bugger bigger cpu usage

    Typo

  • @jimunderscorep said in Opera Version:58.0.3135.117 Opera is up to date but Videos don't play:

    I don't get you...
    Regardless of browser and html5 capabilities/implementations, do you want to use webm on youtube or not?

    what's so hard to get? I can use webm just fine
    but I'm not gonna bother patching Opera every week it updates
    the extension stops youtube from prioritizing H.264 above other codecs (hence "block H.264"), which fixed about half my videos (youtube "lying to me").
    yes after having some extended time with it (I only tested about 5 videos prior before posting earlier and just happened to get lucky they all worked), I ran into videos that still didn't play

    so while I still need to pester the authors, at least now I can ask them to please provide VP8, VP9, etc encodings rather than to stop using H.264

  • If you are fine with webm, I have no problem.
    You do not have to do anything extra to make webm work in opera, as it is the only codec it can support on youtube, so installing extra addons like the one you mentioned is pointless.

    Also, please keep in mind that youtube's live streams, e.g. nasa's, use h264 exclusively , there is not a "fallback" webm version for them, so they do not work in opera.
    No idea about youtube's embedded videos on other pages.

  • @jimunderscorep said in Opera Version:58.0.3135.117 Opera is up to date but Videos don't play:

    You do not have to do anything extra to make webm work in opera, as it is the only codec it can support on youtube, so installing extra addons like the one you mentioned is pointless.

    how is it pointless if I'm blocking a codec that doesn't work??
    I can't use H.264, so blocking it to get some videos working (as stated previously) seems pretty pointful to me.

  • @Tcll

    Have you got 'Chromium Codecs extra? Check this, its works for me:

    sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/chromium-browser/libffmpeg.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera/libffmpeg.so

  • @e51ja that's how I patched the browser every week when I was on Xubuntu

    it's a nuisance to have to do, and I got tired of it, so I don't bother anymore
    plus I don't even know if I can do so on Void Linux (haven't bothered trying)

    as I said though, this doesn't fix the problem (not google's problem, at least I don't believe now), it only works around it.

    again, the fix is to stop using H.264 when encoding your videos
    if the codec doesn't wanna be public (requires a license to use) then let it have it's cake and stop using it.

  • @Tcll
    "the fix is to stop using H.264 when encoding your videos" i think it is not real to much

    what about snap of opera?

  • @e51ja I prefer AppImage builds instead of snaps or flatpaks since I can just download with my browser and run rather than having to install some bloated utility to install packages with.

    plus I can even store AppImages on a separate HDD or flash drive, so if my OS corrupts I don't lose my programs.

    but I haven't found one for Opera

    if I'm making AppImage sound too perfect, it's not
    in Etcher's case I need to install gconf2 before I can run it
    otherwise an AppImage is just a single-file executable.

  • Semi-offtopic, but I will post it here since all the other recent and relevant topics were closed.

    Opera was updated to v62 today, so it will work with chromium ffmpeg codecs v75. If anyone has put chromium ffmpeg codecs v73 on hold, like I said in another forum, it is time to remove that hold and let apt upgrade the package.

    I was also right in my prediction that opere would jump to v62 from v60, as I had predicted its jump from v58 to v60 a ~3 months ago.

  • @jimunderscorep said in Opera Version:58.0.3135.117 Opera is up to date but Videos don't play:

    like I said in another forum thread

    @jimunderscorep said in Opera Version:58.0.3135.117 Opera is up to date but Videos don't play:

    my prediction that opere opera would jump

    Typos, typos...

  • Hey folks, is anybody able to find a .deb package for version 75 of the chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra package? On my PC, v76 is now installed and obviously that breaks Opera's video support again.

  • Found it!

    Go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser
    Look for your Ubuntu version (e.g. Bionic Beaver)
    Click on latest Chromium Browser version
    Scroll down, click on "chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra"
    In "Published Versions", find previous version
    Select that, then you should find a .deb download

  • Open a linux terminal (I tested it on Ubuntu distribution) and do enter these commands (one per one):

    curl -L -O https://github.com/iteufel/nwjs-ffmpeg-prebuilt/releases/download/0.39.2/0.39.2-linux-x64.zip

    unzip 0.39.2-linux-x64.zip

    sudo mv libffmpeg.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libffmpeg_h264.so

    sudo mv /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera/libffmpeg.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera/libffmpeg.so.orig

    sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libffmpeg_h264.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera/libffmpeg.so

  • @pinportal After this, close and open Opera browser again. It will work videos from Fb.com, Twitter.com, etc (all websites that needs ffmpeg installed)

  • @pinportal just want to note
    after every opera update, your symlink will be overwritten

    I used to do the same thing using chromium's direct libffmpeg.so and got tired of it...
    I've just been telling people to stop using H.264 and use VP8 or VP9 instead
    (VP8 is better as it's easier on your CPU)

    if they don't want my like and watch time on YT, that's fine by me 😉

  • @Tcll
    But it is not something that we can control, right?

    For example: I like to watch videos from Facebook.com newsfeed and Twitter.com newsfeed. Facebook and Twitter use H.264 and not VP8/VP9. So our browser must support it.

    And Yes, every opera update, you should do this process.
    But sometimes not.

    For example. I did it when it was installed on my PC Opera 62. Then I have updated this week to 63 and today I updated it again to a new version of 63.
    H.264 is still being supported and I did it only once when I had Opera 62.

    I know this is not the ideal option (Google Chrome and Firefox for Ubuntu support H.264 natively), but it is what we have for today.

    And we can't force the biggest sites in the world to migrate to VP8 / VP9.

  • @pinportal said in Opera Version:58.0.3135.117 Opera is up to date but Videos don't play:

    @Tcll
    But it is not something that we can control, right?

    And we can't force the biggest sites in the world to migrate to VP8 / VP9.

    right, it's up to a hierarchy of owners who are able to re-encode the video in a playable format
    you CAN however disable H.264 to try to force something like VP8 if available with an extension called "enhanced-h264ify"

    this fixed quite a few youtube videos for me, but not all videos

    I know this is not the ideal option (Google Chrome and Firefox for Ubuntu support H.264 natively), but it is what we have for today.

    firefox actually supports h.264 through x.264 which is the open source rewrite of h.264
    tbh, I'm not sure why opera isn't using this

  • @Tcll said in Opera Version:58.0.3135.117 Opera is up to date but Videos don't play:

    @pinportal said in Opera Version:58.0.3135.117 Opera is up to date but Videos don't play:

    @Tcll
    But it is not something that we can control, right?

    firefox actually supports h.264 through x.264 which is the open source rewrite of h.264
    tbh, I'm not sure why opera isn't using this

    It’s not how patents works. You (as developer) can not just including this decoders in your browser without payments.

    Firefox use same decoders as Opera.
    On Windows, macOS, Linux it’s different decoders built in Operating System.

    For Linux it’s some sort of ffmpeg + x.264.

    Only problem in Linux is dependency hell and different environments (different library versions).

    Firefox is open source browser and it has special versions for different Linux distributives. This versions created by distributives maintainers (not by Mozilla).

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