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    • findkfn
      findkfn last edited by

      @findkfn

      Does anybody know the file that i have to replace to get outlook working in x64 ? I cant remember and the old forum is unfortunatly gone....

      Try 12.14 x64

      Yes, that works, but it was only a missing/defective file in the 12.16 x64 installation file that prevented outlook (and maybe other sites) from working.
      It was possible to replace this file with the one from the x86 version.

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      • Deleted User
        Deleted User last edited by

        Yes, use insecure old software like Opera 12.14.

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        • linuxmint7
          linuxmint7 last edited by

          Yes, use insecure old software like Opera 12.14.

          For the amount of sites that work in 12.14 and fail in 12.16 (and I guess 12.17 too), for me, it's worth it. Especially when the functionality between the two is pretty much the same.

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          • findkfn
            findkfn last edited by

            Nevermind, just found it: public_domains.dat
            Its missing in the x64 installation, you can replace it with the one from the x68 installation.

            Yes, use insecure old software like Opera 12.14.

            Yes, i will if i want.

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            • linuxmint7
              linuxmint7 last edited by

              Nevermind, just found it: public_domains.dat
              Its missing in the x64 installation, you can replace it with the one from the x68 installation.

              Yes, use insecure old software like Opera 12.14.

              Yes, i will if i want.

              Thought you were using 12.16 ?, from what you said up there ^.

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              • Deleted User
                Deleted User last edited by

                I believe they will end the support soon, the same thing that happened with Windows XP.

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                • linuxmint7
                  linuxmint7 last edited by

                  I believe they will end the support soon, the same thing that happened with Windows XP.

                  But that does not make it function any less, and it will still work (for me) the day after they drop support as well as it did the day before. #Shrugs#

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                  • findkfn
                    findkfn last edited by

                    Thought you were using 12.16 ?, from what you said up there ^.

                    I was using 12.14 because of some site incompatibilities but now im trying 12.17.
                    I just remembered the outlook problem in 12.16 x64 (and apparently now also in 12.17 x64)

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                    • torrente
                      torrente last edited by

                      You people are really naive ...

                      With version 12.15 they "accidentally" introduced bug(s) which made Opera Presto have even more site compatibility problems, then with version 12.16 they, again todally "accidentally", deleted a file from x64 version what brought even more site compatibility problems. And now we have v12.17 which doesn't fix any of those issues. Coincidence? Really, really?

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                      • torrente
                        torrente last edited by

                        OMG how could I forget that certificate theft and that they didn't even mention v12.16 on their blog. Huh, of course they care.

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                        • Deleted User
                          Deleted User last edited by

                          Coincidence? Really, really?

                          Paranoia? Really, really? Uh... these are professional developers. They're not going to purposely scuttle Opera Presto. Opera Presto is already dead and it's only a matter of time before it becomes entirely useless. What they ARE doing is providing security fixes. If you don't like them or (perish the thought) don't trust them... DON'T UPDATE. It's really as simple as that.

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                          • davehawley
                            davehawley last edited by

                            Just updated (forgotten how long it's been, nine months!)
                            All seems OK.
                            🙂

                            Still in mourning for Opera 12.........

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                            • torrente
                              torrente last edited by

                              Uh... these are professional developers. They're not going to purposely scuttle Opera Presto.

                              Purposely or not, they did just that, two times in a row. We are talking here about a single file, a single file (public_domains.dat) which can fix a lot of site compatibility problems. So professional ...

                              Opera Presto is already dead and it's only a matter of time before it becomes entirely useless.

                              Opera Presto had a word of mouth marketing, Chopera doesn't have, so it's only a matter of time before it becomes dead, too, at least the desktop version.

                              Come on people just look at Otter browser changelog https://github.com/Emdek/otter/blob/master/CHANGELOG
                              In only a year it will have most Opera Presto features, and from Chopera we got "Show full url" after almost a year.

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                              • Deleted User
                                Deleted User last edited by

                                Opera Blink will have more users now, it is lighter, it has unique features. It provides a better browsing experience.

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                                • awzx
                                  awzx last edited by

                                  it has unique features

                                  Are you referring to the absence of the bookmarks manager and site settings, as well as to the meager customization options, even in comparison with Chrome? Well, those "features" are definitely unique to Chropera, although they can hardly attract someone who's not employed by Opera ASA and while Firefox and Chrome are around. So, keep hallucinating.

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                                  • Deleted User
                                    Deleted User last edited by

                                    Opera devs removed bookmarks due to a research they made. They discovered that only a minority have used bookmarks. Search in the blog for Opera 15 and read the articles. In the latest version you can enable the bookmarks bar on settings.

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                                    • viryu
                                      viryu last edited by

                                      If stuff is removed based on how many people are using it, why not remove the Opera as a whole? I mean, it's a real minority on the browser market. Makes sense by going by that ideology.

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                                      • t2zy
                                        t2zy last edited by

                                        April Fool's day:)

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                                        • linuxmint7
                                          linuxmint7 last edited by

                                          April Fool's day:)

                                          In which solar system ?.

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                                          • lem729
                                            lem729 last edited by

                                            @awzx
                                            You said: "Are you referring to the absence [in Opera 20] of the bookmarks manager and site settings, as well as to the meager customization options, even in comparison with Chrome?"

                                            -- There are lots of bookmark managers extensions in the Chrome and Opera stores. And reasonable ones. Take your pick. Also, there is an abundance of riches in bookmarking in Opera 20, including a speed dial, far better than any other browser has on the internet. Eat your heart out, Firefox, Chrome, or IE. It's like wow, psychedelic, with folders/speed dials within it. If you like a Speed Dial, I think you cannot NOT be drawn to Opera 20.

                                            As for bookmarking, Opera 20 has, in addition to the awesome speed dial, Personal Bookmark bars, bookmarking extensions, like Tidy Bookmarks or Chrookmarks. There's Stash, too, (which also can fill certain bookmarking needs). So please, none of this lamenting about bookmarks. I'll grant you that customizaiton is not the same as with Opera 12.17, but -- on the positive side -- there is a much greater universe of extensions from which Opera 20 can benefit. If you love extensions, the vast majority of prospective users will very much like Opera 20, which is significantly faster than Opera 12.17. In sum, I find Opera 20 is sleek, minimalist, and a lot of fun to use.

                                            Let me make clear, though, I am happy about the Opera 12.17 update. I think it's great that Opera provides two different browsers that have different strengths, that appeal to different types of users. While I never used all of Opera 12.17's rich feature set, I did use, and very much enjoy, some, and hope that some day some of the features -- either through extension or otherwise -- will find their way to the new Opera.

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