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Opera 12.18

  • CPU: Intel Pentium M 1.73GHz

    I first read it as "Permium"😃

  • Opera 12.18 is a great news, only it is just a security update. I want to use Presto Opera on Twitter, but it still cannot display the Twitter screen properly. ...

    As was announced long ago (upon the issuance of the first chromium/Blink Opera versions), the only future updates that would be made for Presto Opera versions would be security updates. And no promises for how long those would occur were given. Presto browser development has ceased, so feature and compatibility updates are not going to happen any more, unless Opera were to completely reverse itself and its design direction.

  • And given this information, it is to be expected that and ever increasing number of sites will fail to load properly as the webmasters will no longer take olde Opera into consideration. I don't expect Netscape to open most sites today and this will become my expectation for the Presto version of Opera as time passes.

  • It was always a problem fighting compatibility problems with sites when using Presto Opera.
    That's why it had to have the facility to easily pretend to be another browser on a site by site basis, and browser.js had to be constantly updated by Opera to provide compatibility fixes.
    The current Opera doesn't have that problem as it's Chromium based, and all major sites are coded for that now.
    I'm sure that's one of the main reasons Opera went over to using Chromium, they were fighting a constant and losing battle for recognition with Presto.
    🙂

  • For me, the only problem with Presto Opera is the problem with Twitter. If it does not have that problem, I don't need Chromium Opera or any other browser for that matter.

    As for Netscape, about the only websites online that can be viewed with Netscape may be mine. I design my websites so that they can be viewed with Netscape 7.0. All of them work all right with any other browser and are ranked high in Google.

    Posted with Netscape 9.0.0.6

  • For me, the only problem with Presto Opera is the problem with Twitter. If it does not have that problem, I don't need Chromium Opera or any other browser for that matter.

    you can disable automatic redirection for twitter.com so it doesn't redirect to mobile.twitter.com
    it takes a few seconds to load the sidebars, but after that the site seems to work fine.

  • Sorry to be so demanding, but I suppose you haven't also got a fix for the typing of comments on YouTube not working properly?
    You can type fine, but the space bar doesn't work (shift+space does) and the number keys at the top of the keyboard don't work either, you have to use the ones on the right hand keypad.
    All can be worked around, but it is annoying!

    try disable userjs

  • Thanks @yellowfour, I've tried disabling UserJS for YouTube using the site preferences, but sadly it made no difference.
    😞
    However, I do now know what's causing it, it's the YouTube Center extension I'm using, which is annoying because it's great in every other respect, but needless to say is no longer updated for Opera 12.
    ;_;

  • Thanks @yellowfour, I've tried disabling UserJS for YouTube using the site preferences, but sadly it made no difference.

    However, I do now know what's causing it, it's the YouTube Center extension I'm using, which is annoying because it's great in every other respect, but needless to say is no longer updated for Opera 12.

    I use an extension called "extend Tube", maybe you can try that one. I had youtube center and deleted it, can't recall what the problem was or what I didn't like about it.

  • Thanks. YouTube Center development seems to have stalled anyway for the moment.
    I'm using the latest release version, which is now quite old, and the developer versions just produce an absolute mess on Opera 12, so I may well give "Extend Tube" a try!
    🙂

  • You haven't got a fix for the Facebook search field now being mis-placed have you?!

    Actually, I already do.
    Make a CSS file containing the following:
    ._50tk, ._2t-e {
    display: flex;
    }
    ._2t-e, ._50tm {
    flex: 1;
    }

    Then set this file as the custom style sheet in site preferences for FB. Of course this solution may break when they make changes to the site again, but we'll see.

    Does it still work?

    Unfortunately, for me seems to not work on Opera 12.16 (Linux).

    I've made some (really) ugly UserCSS which works for me now but that's not a good solution.

    `._50tl ._2t-e {

    width: 450px;
    

    }

    .__wu ._539-.roundedBox.reDesignedSearchBox {

    width: 400px !important;
    

    }`

    Beside that to get rid of a prompt about upgrading the browser I use:

    `div[id="outdatedBrowserBanner"] {

    display: none !important;
    

    }`

    And to remove a bit of the empty space above the bar on the right side:

    `.hasBanner ._5qqe {

    height: 45px !important;
    

    }`

  • @robkaw's fix is still working for me on Opera 12.18, at least to put the search field back in the right place.
    🙂

  • Does it still work?

    Yes, just checked. Did you apply the fix I've mentioned in the subsequent post?

    Beside that to get rid of a prompt about upgrading the browser I use:

    Strange, I've never got a prompt like that. Have you by chance changed the browser identification option in site preferences for FB?

    And to remove a bit of the empty space above the bar on the right side:

    I don't have this one too.

  • Now - after some deeper insight - I noticed that I have been using Internet Explorer masking. I am sorry for the confusion.

    Nevertheless, Facebook website seems to work smoother with that setting enabled.

    There were only two bugs:

    1. Search field with width set to 100px (but it is in the right place).

    2. A bit of empty space above the right column.

    Thank you for the answer and sorry again for the confusion.

    BTW Is there any list of the malfunctioning websites?

    It would be convenient to create some kind of list where people could report broken sites and share patches to them.

    Maybe some kind of community fork of browser.js?

  • Try pasting this in override.ini in the Facebook section in place of the line that's there -
    User Prefs|Custom User-Agent=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0 Opera 12.16
    That made things run smoother for me, without the browser update nag.

    A agree a repository for these sort of fixes/workarounds, and custom js and CSS fixes would be a really good resource to have.
    It's wonderful that Opera 12 is so flexible and customisable that these things can be done!
    🙂

  • That would be a full-time job.

  • Yes, it certainly would be!
    :lol:
    I guess here is the only place we will find these "tricks" for Opera 12, it's such a shame that the search function here doesn't work too well.
    😞

  • Regarding community fixes and patches.

    There exists an abandoned open-source addon named Fix the Web.

    https://addons.opera.com/pl/extensions/details/fix-the-web/?display=en

    Source code: https://github.com/cyberstream/Fix-the-Web

    Beside patching broken sites the extension has a function to easily report to the addon's developers a new problematic websites.

    What is more, there are also available some server-side files:

    https://github.com/cyberstream/Fix-the-Web-Server-Side/

    More info about it is on an their (archived) My Opera blog: https://web.archive.org/web/20130328173208/http://my.opera.com/fix-the-web/blog/

  • Empej, huh? 😕

    This .18 thing is only for Windows, right?

  • @empej107

    There exists an abandoned open-source addon named Fix the Web.
    https://addons.opera.com/pl/extensions/details/fix-the-web/?display=en

    This is a great idea. I mean a client-side patching for a problem web-sites (e.g. User-Agent spoofing solutions, bug and compatibility fixes via UserJS and UserCSS), where its still possible. But who would support it? Maybe we (die hard presto fans :)) could create the "wage fund"(donated) to employ some guys (on piece-rate pay) ? Or make some kind of virtual auction/shop which could work on a principle "make working patch and get your money from the fund"

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