I Hate These Upgrades
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shanwen88 last edited by
Prevent flash plugins from playing is not the same as blocking the content. Blocking the content is far better.
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christoph142 last edited by
You don't even have to disable them manually. Just install any of the various adblocking extensions and you're fine.
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mossman last edited by
lando242: "It used a rendering engine called Presto and it was too difficult to maintain and keep current with the limited resources of the dev team."
Presto still has no problems with 99.99% of the internet I see... (I just popped in to check if Chrome Opera has caught up with 12. Apparently not. See you next year.
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designer1 last edited by
I agree, Opera is getting to be more trouble than it's worth. Seems every time it is working fine and I get it configured the way I want it, there comes another upgrade and I start all over again. I have used it since being a paying subscriber (#2 I think), but I am getting tired.
So Opera 26 loaded yesterday. My imported bookmarks come up as big, splashy icons taking up huge real estate so I have to scroll way down to get to what I want. Where's the file menu? Where are the developer tools? This thing is useless. I uninstalled it. When you stop supporting 12, I'm outa here. -
lando242 last edited by
Presto still has no problems with 99.99% of the internet I see
When I finally made the change I couldn't get and of my banking or credit card websites to load because of certificate issues. Outlook/Hotmail wouldn't log in. Gmail was spotty. Google had downgraded half of their websites to older versions (image search, maps, etc) with less functionality. Forums that I frequented that used Captchas had their layouts all messed up. Several websites had general display issues. I haven't used 12 since last year and I doubt its gotten any better with age.
Seems every time it is working fine and I get it configured the way I want it, there comes another upgrade and I start all over again.
So Opera 26 loaded yesterday.So, wait. Every time you upgrade the change something, and you were using Opera 12... so you haven't upgraded in 2 years? Seriously? You've going to come here acting like it was some big recent change and you're complaining about something that started 2 years ago? Really? Check the news mate, they stopped supporting Opera 12 2 years ago. Outside of a minor patch to fix the heartbleed issue they haven't done anything to it. Support for Opera 12 went away quite awhile ago.
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mossman last edited by
Those banking etc. pages - I'm sure you know that was almost certainly poor site design / browser sniffing.
But weirdly, things are actually better now than a couple of years ago. Google, Hotmail etc. started being troublesome for a while but work fine for me now. Images was never a problem, although I hated what they did with the pop-over image back then. It recently reverted back to a simple list of thumbnails, thank goodness... I thought it could be since Presto was "not modern" but I get the same old-style images page in IE as well.
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stng last edited by
Google had downgraded half of their websites to older versions (image search, maps, etc) with less functionality.
Google provides a simplified and poorly functional contentet for Opera 12.
But it can be easily fixed with a User-Agent masking via override.ini.P.S.: And Chropera still has a capability issies too..
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sparapaunz last edited by
It's a pity to know all I'm reading in these posts.
I use opera since the time it become freeware and I thing the v.12 was fantastic as all the previous versions.
After the last Java update (I need it for work), Opera does no longer show Java appletes and I had to move to firefox for beeing able to see those sites that use java applets.When I installed Chrome, many times ago, it lasted not more than 20 minutes, then I removed.
Same for this Opera 26.
My question is: why do you think that someone need a clone of Chrome?This thing will cause Opera to loose all its (few) old users without any reason to get new ones. The death of a software.
Small improvements on the version 12 would have been much more appreciated than a new Chrome.
Actually, firefox is more similar to the "Opera" we know and want than Opera 26.Anyway, thank you for all your work on the releases until the 12.17. I'll be with that until I'll be forced to finally move to firefox or something else. Not chrome... for sure!
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lando242 last edited by
why do you think that someone need a clone of Chrome?
We don't think, we know. The old rendering engine was falling behind technologically and the dev team felt their resources would be better utilized by adopting a renderer made by someone else and focusing on building a good UI for it instead of trying to compete with companies like Google and Microsoft. The old Opera UI was not compatible with the new renderer and it would have taken more work to adapt it then start from scratch. So, here we are.
