New YouTube Problems with Opera 12.17

teeps

teeps

@teeps:

I was using 12.17 fine for months. 2 days ago it installed the latest 24.0 and...

Teeps, you seem to have problems similar to those discussed in this thread.

Thanks to you and leocg for your help!

A Former User

Somebody doesn't like Facebook here?
How's this weird way of sharing files?

lukaria

lukaria

I must apologizes for my solution, such that stng 's solution is the appropriate solution. Selective masking is truly better than global masking. After all, the problem only occurs on youtube and google. I like using Opera, and hope sites would recognize me using opera rather than a Firefox mask.
I have applied stng 's solution and it worked. However, I did have a hard time finding override.ini because that's for Mac users. For windows, it's called override_downloaded.ini.

Also, where do you get these User agent strings? Is it better to use the most updated one? I tried both Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/31.0 and the one stng provided, but there is no difference.

A Former User

Strange, I'm on Windows and override.ini is there on my system!
override_downloaded.ini is the file that's downloaded from Opera containing fixes for sites with known problems, a bit like browser.js, although I suspect that it's not being updated on Opera 12 any more.
The fix will work if override_downloaded.ini is modified rather than override .ini, but the latter should be used ideally as that's user specific and override_downloaded.ini isn't.
The default user agent strings are unfortunately hard coded into opera.dll, so can't easily be changed or updated.

maffaxxx

maffaxxx

hello guys.

id like to list my problem not only with youtube, but also with facebook (when you click on the newseed on the right panel the windows with someone else's activity wont go away) and discus (when you have an update about your account and you click to see it the screen turns just grey)

now i will try the partial masking and i will try to extend it to the other sites. sure thing is when you tamper with facebook and youtube you dont have much place to run to, now have you.

A Former User

YouTube works nice with 11.

No it doesn't. Comments, for one, are mashed text.

Somebody doesn't like Facebook here?
How's this weird way of sharing files?

That's the strangest Opera lay-out I've seen.

And the way quoting works in this forum, with no names cited, is the worst I've ever experienced.
@maffa: I have the same thing with Disq.us, but does the solution showed here, work for that as well? What domain do you add then?

A Former User

<blockquote>YouTube works nice with 11.
</blockquote>
No it doesn't. Comments, for one, are mashed text.

I confirmed that I'm no able to comment:

Somebody doesn't like Facebook here?
How's this weird way of sharing files?

That's the strangest Opera lay-out I've seen.

:wizard:

And the way quoting works in this forum, with no names cited, is the worst I've ever experienced.

You try copypasting if you're not with Opera Presto.

sintetix

sintetix

I have solution for this problem, that doesn't needs to directly edit configuration file and relaunch Opera.
http://redd.it/2ltsrb

Temporarily turn off automatic redirection: Preferences (Ctrl-F12) -> Tab 'Advanced' -> 'Network' -> Uncheck 'Enable automatic redirection'
Temporarily turn off JavaScript execution: Quick Preferences (F12) -> Uncheck 'Enable JavaScript'
Open plus.googleapis.com and turn on user agent spoofing for it: Quick Preferences (F12) -> 'Edit Site Preferences'... -> Tab 'Network' -> In dropdown list 'Browser identification' select option 'Identify as Firefox'
Repeat step (3) for plus.google.com and apis.google.com
Undo steps (1) and (2)
Refresh desired YouTube web page(s)

Done!

Actually, it is editing of 'override.ini' too, just done through Opera's GUI. String 'User Agent|Spoof UserAgent ID=2' does similar influence on YouTube as 'User Prefs|Custom User-Agent=...'

A Former User

Fixed the comments font problem. Still loads slow, Thanks.

A Former User

You'll need to use the custom CSS method to stop the slow loading.
It sounds complicated, but it does work!
See here - https://forums.opera.com/post/29123

stng

stng

@sintetix

Actually, it is editing of 'override.ini' too, just done through Opera's GUI. String 'User Agent|Spoof UserAgent ID=2' does similar influence on YouTube as 'User Prefs|Custom User-Agent=...'

Without patched opera.dll (for an updated User-Agent stings), masking as obsolete Firefox/IE version is not quite good idea.
By default, Opera can spoof it's identifiy for a web-site with IDs of "antique" Firefox 4.0 and Internet Explorer 9.0 versions .
Override.ini is better method because you are free to set any identify of the browser(via User-Agent string) for specific web-site.

A Former User

Without patched opera.dll (for an updated User-Agent stings), masking as obsolete Firefox/IE version is not quite good idea.
By default, Opera can spoof it's identifiy for a web-site with IDs of "antique" Firefox 4.0 and Internet Explorer 9.0 versions .
Override.ini is better method because you are free to set any identify of the browser(via User-Agent string) for specific web-site.

Indeed so!
Adding a custom User-Agent string is something that it would have been great to have had in the site preferences dialogue, along with site by site "fit to width", but they were sadly never implemented, and now won't be of course!

sintetix

sintetix

@stng

My solution was only about YouTube's comments, nothing else. For that purpose it works well. For other websites, I usually visiting, I don't have any problems.
Actually, initially I have edited 'override.ini', but then decided to find a more GUI'ish way, to make instructing by phone easier.

okusta

okusta

Hey guys,

I have a new problem. There is no option to change video resolution. It's 360p permanetly. It started several days ago. I'm using opera 12.16. Is anyone having the same issues? Any workaround?

A Former User

I have tried the css hack with no success. Scrolling is still impossibly jerky. It's like it appears the page is fully loaded, then it starts doing some other stuff.

I don't know why these people keep "fixing" perfectly good working sites. I mean the new york times is now a mess and it used to be one of the best fastest loading websites. Youmail has now changed their player to html5, thereby it does not work on opera anymore. I suppose the employees need something to do.

A Former User

Have you still got a full list of your subscribed channels on the left hand side?
If so, the CSS hack hasn't worked.

A Former User

Have you still got a full list of your subscribed channels on the left hand side?
If so, the CSS hack hasn't worked.

No, no list on the left hand side. Specifically what I am having problems with is youtubes default page or home page, "what to watch" Once I have selected a video and playing it then it behaves normally

A Former User

Strange, it seems fine here.
I have the YouTube Center and AdBlock extensions installed though, which may be the difference.

A Former User

Strange, it seems fine here.
I have the YouTube Center and AdBlock extensions installed though, which may be the difference.

Not a big deal really. I can just bookmark a different youtube page. Just annoying to know something is not working

A Former User

I've done loads to try and make Youtube work on 12.x. Editing CSS etc. Fixed it for a bit, but for the past months I've getting jerky behaviour, incredible RAM usage, freezing and all the rest of it.
In an ideal world, we should leave Youtube and hope that Google make good on us.

In the real world, where we cannot live without Youtube, we have to smother Opera 12.x for our own good. It just won't work on popular pages who don't care about standards anymore.