[Solved]Deleted desktop icon back on every start
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mathias87 last edited by@burnout426 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
@mathias87 Are you using Windows 10? Using multiple monitors? Do you have another drive besides C:? Can you check with Process Monitor too?
Yes, Windows 10. One monitor. No other drive besides "C:".
How do I open this process monitor? And what can I do with it? -
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@mathias87 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
How do I open this process monitor? And what can I do with it?
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wdburgdorf last edited by
@nvmjustagirl Hi again, sorry, I'm snowed under currently.
Yes, Win10. Desktop is on D. Simply selected in folder options. That (alone) cannot be the issue. I have the same setup on another PC, no problem there.
About user rights, I also don't think that's it. I removed Opera, then installed it on my admin account. Same issue there. Unfortunately, there was no option to install for all users, so now I don't have it anymore on my normal user account.(I also found out how Opera made itself default without asking: On one of the installation screens is a small link that says "Options" - and there I found the default opt out. That's a bit sneaky, don't you think. Not your fault, sure, but maybe you have contacts to talk to about that?)
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@wdburgdorf said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
Yes, Win10. Desktop is on D. Simply selected in folder options. That (alone) cannot be the issue. I have the same setup on another PC, no problem there.
Can you compare ""HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders" on both computers to see if any of the differences stand out?
@wdburgdorf said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
About user rights, I also don't think that's it. I removed Opera, then installed it on my admin account. Same issue there.
So, Opera was running as a normal user account initially.
Unfortunately, there was no option to install for all users, so now I don't have it anymore on my normal user account.
Uninstall Opera (you can keep your data if you want). Delete "C:\Program Files\Opera" for good measure. Then, launch Opera's installer and click the "options" link. Change the "install path" to "C:\Program Files\Opera". Then, you should be able to change the "install for" to "All Users". Then, make sure to adjust the other checkbox and options. Then install.
That'll get things back to normal. And, just for kicks, try Opera again on the admin account to see if the icon is still created. If not then, I'm wondering if it's an all users setup + running Opera as normal user + a different desktop. But, I assume that alone isn't the cause if that's what you do on the other computer.
Is your D drive formatted as NTFS fat/fat32 or extFAT?
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@nvmjustagirl said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
Also check this...
C:\Users\Public\Desktop.. see if opera is there.. if so delete itMaybe check "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" to see if there are any odd Opera icons in there.
C:\Users\adminaccount\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch
C:\Users\youruseraccount\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch
Check the "User pinned\taskbar" folder too to see if there's any odd icons in there. Maybe delete them and have the recreated. Also, in the "User Pinned" folder is ImplicitAppShortcuts. See if any of those folders contain one for Opera and maybe delete it or at least compare with the other computer.
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wdburgdorf last edited by
Hi,
I checked the registry and compared the entries on both PCs. They are almost identical. Just one notable difference:
The failing PC has two entries for Desktop, the other only one:Value 20
Name: Desktop
Type: REG_EXPAND_SZ
Data: D:\DesktopValue 26
Name: {754AC886-DF64-4CBA-86B5-F7FBF4FBCEF5}
Type: REG_EXPAND_SZ
Data: D:\DesktopThe good PC has only the first.
There is nothing in C:\Users\Public\Desktop
The other stuff I cannot check now, in office.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
You could right-click and export the key. Then, delete the entry that's not there on your other PC, restart Windows and see if there's any difference. If that doesn't work, restore and delete the other entry to see what happens.
I see the id points to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions{754AC886-DF64-4CBA-86B5-F7FBF4FBCEF5}" which has some properties. I guess you could also compare the settings there between PCs to make sure they're at least right.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@mathias87 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
Yes, Windows 10. One monitor. No other drive besides "C:".
Okay. Did you change your desktop to a different folder though?
Either way, can you check the "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders" key in the registry to see too if you have more than one entry that has a value with "desktop" in it? Can you also check "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders"? @wdburgdorf, can you check this key also?
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mathias87 last edited by
@burnout426 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
@mathias87 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
Yes, Windows 10. One monitor. No other drive besides "C:".
Okay. Did you change your desktop to a different folder though?
Either way, can you check the "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders" key in the registry to see too if you have more than one entry that has a value with "desktop" in it? Can you also check "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders"? @wdburgdorf, can you check this key also?
Only one entry that has a value with "Desktop" in it. Same for "[...] Shell Folders".
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mathias87 last edited by
Hmm...I replaced the existing link sticked to my task bar with the link Opera creates every time I start it.
Seems like it stopped creating a link now. -
burnout426 Volunteer last edited by burnout426
@mathias87 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
Hmm...I replaced the existing link sticked to my task bar with the link Opera creates every time I start it.
Seems like it stopped creating a link now.So, you're saying you unpinned the Opera tasbkar icon you had, started Opera with the desktop shortcut that Opera keeps creating, and right-clicked on that taskbar button when Opera started and choose to pin that? Then, you deleted the desktop icon and it doesn't come back now?
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mathias87 last edited by
@burnout426 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
@mathias87 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
Hmm...I replaced the existing link sticked to my task bar with the link Opera creates every time I start it.
Seems like it stopped creating a link now.So, you're saying you unpinned the Opera tasbkar icon you had, started Opera with the desktop shortcut that Opera keeps creating, and right-clicked on that taskbar button when Opera started and choose to pin that? Then, you deleted the desktop icon and it doesn't come back now?
Yup, exactly.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@mathias87 Thanks for the clarification. Maybe that'll work for @wdburgdorf too.
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@burnout426 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
@mathias87 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
Hmm...I replaced the existing link sticked to my task bar with the link Opera creates every time I start it.
Seems like it stopped creating a link now.So, you're saying you unpinned the Opera tasbkar icon you had, started Opera with the desktop shortcut that Opera keeps creating, and right-clicked on that taskbar button when Opera started and choose to pin that? Then, you deleted the desktop icon and it doesn't come back now?
thats what i was thinking if only they had copy and pasted the icons properties..
wow glad its Solved !..
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@wdburgdorf said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
Yes, it works indeed! Thank you @mathias87!
Awesome! Yes, good find @mathias87
@nvmjustagirl said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
if only they had copy and pasted the icons properties
Yes. I should have asked that as I still can't figure out how to reproduce this myself so that a bug can be filed to work around it.
Opera uses launcher.exe to load the opera.exe in the latest version folder. If you load opera.exe directly (and pin that to the taskbar), Opera will fix the pinned shortcut so that it has the path to launcher.exe instead of opera.exe. If not, when you launch via launcher.exe, you'll get another taskbar button. Anyway, I think something with that in some circumstance (that I'm not exactly sure of) triggers the desktop icon creation.
@mathias87 and @wdburgdorf , if the deleted desktop icon is still in the recycling bin, can you go in there, right-click it, choose "cut", paste it into another folder besides the desktop, right-click it and goto "properties"? Would be interested in seeing screenshots of the "shortcut" and "details" tabs. Or, at least, post the name of the shortcut and the target. Thanks.
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mathias87 last edited by
@burnout426 said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
@wdburgdorf said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
Yes, it works indeed! Thank you @mathias87!
Awesome! Yes, good find @mathias87
@nvmjustagirl said in Deleted desktop icon back on every start:
if only they had copy and pasted the icons properties
Yes. I should have asked that as I still can't figure out how to reproduce this myself so that a bug can be filed to work around it.
Opera uses launcher.exe to load the opera.exe in the latest version folder. If you load opera.exe directly (and pin that to the taskbar), Opera will fix the pinned shortcut so that it has the path to launcher.exe instead of opera.exe. If not, when you launch via launcher.exe, you'll get another taskbar button. Anyway, I think something with that in some circumstance (that I'm not exactly sure of) triggers the desktop icon creation.
@mathias87 and @wdburgdorf , if the deleted desktop icon is still in the recycling bin, can you go in there, right-click it, choose "cut", paste it into another folder besides the desktop, right-click it and goto "properties"? Would be interested in seeing screenshots of the "shortcut" and "details" tabs. Or, at least, post the name of the shortcut and the target. Thanks.
No sorry, I don't have that deleted desktop icon in the recycling bin anymore as I solved this bug now and personally don't understand most of what you're saying in that technical manner.^^
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