Pinboards disappearing
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Roo53 last edited by
Hi Burnie and others. My Pinboards seem to be performing okay now. I hope I don't lose them because I'm having some teething issues with Pocket Premium at the moment (not sure it's worth paying for), so I'm sort of using Pinboards in place of pocket. It's been okay for what, 2-3 days, but I think it's still too early to say 'it's stable'. I admit, I haven't got much faith at the moment.
I am not signed in for device synchronisation. Hmmm? Should I be do you think?
Opera is a great browser - too good to be dragged down by issues like this. I hope they're onto it and have fixed it - for all time.
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kmielczarczyk Opera last edited by kmielczarczyk
@burnie Hi,
Fist of all: Pinboards are stored in two places:- Remote pinboards are stored in a hidden folder in bookmarks
- Local pinboards are stored as part of the site data of pinboard.opera.com
As a result, if you clear site data, you will loose your local pinboards. And if you clear all your bookmarks, the remote pinboards are gone.
So:- Have you recently clear your browser data?
- Or do you have any extension or software cleans browser data automatically? (Ex. computer "cleaning" tool)
- Were the missing pinboards created in a private browser?
Local pinboards are not synced. So they might be gone after a browser reinstall.
Regarding restoring remote pinboard: The only way is if you have the sharing link (maybe you posted it before and copied the link), you can still view that board via the link and you can clone it to create a new board with the same content to continue working on it.
Sorry for inconvenience and please note that Pinboards are still technically in beta and we're working on improving it. -
kathyb last edited by
@kmielczarczyk I too lost all my pinboards. You said there's a hidden place in bookmarks? I have not cleared that, could you tell me where it is? I had a lot of my childs study info pinned. I certainly wish when you begin to use Opera, they would tell you that pinned info is deleted when you clean up your files and run cleaners. Does it do that (clear them) if in a private tab? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around why create something like pinboards that's so easily erased by a cleaner? Well can't cry over spilled milk, but if you could enlighten me on the bookmark spot and pinned on private tabs, and what not to clear when running cleaners that would be most appreciated.
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kathyb last edited by
@burnie this has happened to me as well. I just went to access my students material I had posted, and poof gone. I read in a post that running cleaners that tidy up your system and browsers clear the pinboards. The pinboards should be programmed to be exempt from that, or better yet, Opera should tell you in more detail the do's and don'ts. I see by the posts there are many like us. Pinboards was a great idea until this happened. Now I guess I'm going to have to use an extension.
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kathyb last edited by
@assigned-dyke same!! Opera gives no information regarding the do's and don'ts. I thought pinboards was genius... until they weren't. There's got to be away to work around saving them when running cleaners.
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Roo53 last edited by
@kathyb
Having now read the post from @kmielczarczyk I think I'm going to be giving Opera Pinboards a big miss. I've lost faith, so that's it. This, in my opinion, is a bad reflection on Opera overall. Not good. -
kathyb last edited by leocg
@roo53 I am really disappointed a browser such as Opera would put forth something that seems so wonderful. How are you going to collaborate, share, and such with others if your boards vanish? Or the answer to some of the questions were it disappeared because you cleaned up your browser's cache and cookies. I Loved that feature about Opera, Until.. I discovered my hard work in setting up boards to be shared with students and co workers were gone, and then so many others have the same issue. Opera should disclose the information about the boards disappearing. Well, back to the dang extensions it is. Thanks Opera. Only thing I can say, is if Vivaldi discovers this flaw and the amount of people disappointed by what they lost...
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kathyb last edited by leocg
@kmielczarczyk This is in Poor judgement of Opera to create a tool such as Pinboards and Not warn users that clearing site data would delete the boards. That's a Huge flaw on their part. Most people on a routine basis clear and clean their browsing, for some that also includes registry, and so on. Opera should advise or warn or protect. I have to SMH at this blunder that Opera has created. It was a great idea while it lasted.
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kathyb last edited by leocg
@kmielczarczyk Technically speaking, Opera should warn users of the possibility of the Pinboards being cleared along with site data. Technically, while under development, we thank you for using us a guinea pig for your experiment. That's a very poor excuse for you to bring to the table, technically speaking, pinboards is still under development. In your beautiful ad, as seen here, https://www.opera.com/features/pinboards Nowhere does it tell the victim or warn that is in "developmental stage" . There is not one word of warning... just a pretty little ad to such someone in to find out they lost all their content and material. That's very... deceptive!
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kmielczarczyk Opera last edited by
@kathyb We're sorry this happened to you and I see how disappointing it can be. We should do better.
We're looking into this issue and are determined to fix this.
Until we do, we encourage you to use Synchronisation or turn on sharing of individual Pinboards to make sure they're not lost. -
kathyb last edited by
@kmielczarczyk I got an update on my browser today. I was so disappointed in the fact that my pinboards had vanished and all the material I lost. Now, in the update, it again says nothing about pinboards being experimental, or under development. So I don't assume it's still experimental, is it a stable version now? Because here it gives no indication that it is not. https://www.opera.com/features/pinboards?hide_btn
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kathyb last edited by
@leocg https://www.opera.com/features/pinboards?hide_btn. By all means, go to that link and tell me where it says development, developmental, in progress, under construction, warning that you should back up your boards, experimental, or anything of that nature. Since it clearly states that, please tell me where. I seriously have looked and cannot find it.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@kathyb That's not the pinboard page, it's just a page to advertise a feature. The official page is pinboards.opera.com or opera://pinboards and what is in that page is what matters.
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kathyb last edited by
@leocg Again, in the new version of Opera, the website I gave you does not give that information. So it clearly does not state that there. That page was what I was greeted with, and what Opera greets you with as a "sales pitch". Does it say anywhere on that page to go to another page that shows the pinboards are "experimental"? Use at your own risk? No.. No, it clearly does not. It was you, the moderator, that has told me that I have to go elsewhere to find that information. When I updated my browser today, I was greeted with that link I sent you. Thinking they got the issues with the PB straightened out, I looked all over prior to even posting or asking the question. You should not tell someone clearly it states something on a link, something that Opera is trying to suck you in with, when what you are saying is there, is not.
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kathyb last edited by
@leocg I will not be argumentative, but your reply was relatively weak. In the beginning you said, "it clearly states". To end with it's advertising main/new features. Again, if a browser is going to put something out there they can't back up, why should we believe it? It's wrong to suck people in with promises, and then hide it's in developmental stages. As a consumer, even that of browsers, it's called disclosure. I, along with others, lost a great deal of things on my pinboards, only to be told by Opera, it was in the "developmental stages". I love the idea of the Pinboards; I just want to be assured they will work and for my browser to be transparent to everyone that something they are claiming isn't fully stable at this time. Good Day!
