you would have known all that... as you would also know that I've been active in one or the other Opera forums for years.
Yeah, based on your initial question, I got to think otherwise. No offense.
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you would have known all that... as you would also know that I've been active in one or the other Opera forums for years.
Yeah, based on your initial question, I got to think otherwise. No offense.
Actually,xxlook, I prefer Opera 22, and I did use Opera 12.17 for years. I mean, it's all of question of taste. What I took issue with in your earlier post, was the language, "stupid, greedy changes," in reference to Opera as it seemed highly inappropriate, and offensive. You know, it was language lacking in common sense, and good taste. Opera was a "dream" browser for you, and for some others. But don't generalize it to everyone.
And thats cool. If you prefer the new browser compared to the old one that had better and more features, then thats your right. I can care less about what you think of my opinion. As far I'm concerned, the words echoes what many think of Opera and were not offensive at all. They were offensive only to YOU. If they were "highly offensive and inappopriate" to YOU then I suggest you throw away your PC and TV and close yourself off to the rest of the world since there are even harsher words out there that will give you a heart attack. Words like "screwy, hate, and idiotic" may give you a heart attack so we wouldnt want that. You know, you need to be a real man in todays world since guys less than that dont last long.
Guys... we're being baited... yet again.
Yeah, and it's a shame the much newer and improved engine that allows Opera to continue to exist (and grow in the future) gets ignored over the tiresome features argument, fuelled by a small percentage of the small percentage who used the old Opera browser.
Yeah, like I said, trolls and friends of trolls are invading the forum again.
Guys... we're being baited... yet again.
Hey guys.., we got a troll in here.. beware!
You really dont know. I see youre new to Opera. Just to let you know, Opera years ago had very good advanced features that you can tinker with through its 'Preferences'. Unfortunately, starting 2 or 3 years ago Opera started to change the browser to Chrome and in the process, it removed cool features. Most likely, the company is doing this for some future speculation from a sale to a prospective company willing to pay millions for it. INothing is sacred anymore.
For example, they removed the built-in mail which was the most convenient way to check mail on ANY browser. Opera used to be the best browser in the world until these stupid greedy changes occured. I wish the mail feature would come back.Uhmm... no, I'm hardly "new to Opera", nor to the forums. But the last Presto Opera version with meaningful changes was 12.14, released only about 18 months ago. A couple of security updates have been issued since, bringing the Presto version to 12.17 around 12 months ago. The first Blink Opera version (15, with greatly altered features) didn't emerge until a year ago. Your time description is exaggerated, for if it were accurate, it implies features "stripped out of Opera years ago" would have had to be stripped out of the last multiple Presto versions as well - which is simply not true. You may not care for the changes implemented in the Blink browser versions, but exaggeration and accusations help nobody and instead undercut the credibility of what else you have to say.
Moreover, to argue that Opera has made "greedy" changes is to utterly ignore the reality that the browser has been free for many years... and it remains so. You may use the browser, but it's Opera's design to do with as they wish. You may be frustrated as, indeed, some users are... but please remain rational.
Ok so if you say youre not new to Opera, why did you ask before if Opera advanced features were stripped away when they were? I dont get it. And then you asked which features were stripped awaw. Anyone not new to Opera would know this. I personally think youre new to Opera.
Stupid greedy changes? Give me a break!!! Opera is not a charitable organization, If they can't make a profit, they can't exist. This is the real world, not some fanstasy for a user who wants a free browser with every feature they can dream of. Opera has to pay a staff, and do tons of work, just to provide a browser for you (and wonder of wonders, you get it at no charge). So enough with the stupid and greedy garbage. My understanding is there is a separate Opera mail program you can use with Opera 22, but it's not clear whether Opera will continue to support it. ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/mail/1.0/win/
If you like having a mail program you can open in Opera 22 tabs, you might want to think about web mail, like gmail or Outlook mail. Some people think Thunderbird is a pretty good email program. I use Thunderbird mail (and am one of those people), and for the pleasure of opening a mail program in Opera tabs, I also use gmail. I like them both.
HA HA.. I see youre the type who follows others no matter what. If you want to be a conformist then dont hate others who arent. Opera WAS a dream browser that had it all.. duhhh. In case you dont know, software was made to customize it the way users want it, not what devs want since devs create software keeping the end user in mind. Just because you kiss Opera devs ass doesnt mean that others must follow your weakness. So, be a real man and stop hating others for not being followers like you or wanting something in a browser they desire. BTW, there is a standalone email client by Opera. Thats how much you know about a browser you think you know about.
Why would I downgrade by using Thurderbird or Outlook when Opera had the best interface for mail? You got a lot to learn.
One thing though is that you don't need to check gmail through built-in mail. You can check it in Opera 22 easily enough. There are quite a few Gmail add-ons in the Opera store. That should be able to give you a Gmail icon on the top of the browser, or gmail for your speed dial -- per your preference.
Are you on drugs?? Are you serious?? You want me to actually put gmail on speed dial to check mail and you think thats better than checking mail through the built-in mail client Opera used to have?
One tip for you.. stop snorting that thing because obviously its lowering your intellect dramatically.
There is no built-in mail with Opera 22. There is a stand-alone program which is essentially Opera Presto's mail client enabled. In all probability it is thought that mail will be dropped by the developers.
Thats very sad. It was a pleasure back then when I used to check mail conveniently without having to do so through HTML. Opera sucks now as we all can agree.
How do I get the stand-alone Opera Presto mail client?
Opera for years has unfortunately had most of its advanced features stripped away. ...
Are you suggesting "most of its advanced features" were stripped away even back in the later Presto versions (12 and below), since Blink Opera (version 15 and above) has only been out for about a year? If so, which features are you referring to?
You really dont know. I see youre new to Opera. Just to let you know, Opera years ago had very good advanced features that you can tinker with through its 'Preferences'. Unfortunately, starting 2 or 3 years ago Opera started to change the browser to Chrome and in the process, it removed cool features. Most likely, the company is doing this for some future speculation from a sale to a prospective company willing to pay millions for it. INothing is sacred anymore.
For example, they removed the built-in mail which was the most convenient way to check mail on ANY browser. Opera used to be the best browser in the world until these stupid greedy changes occured. I wish the mail feature would come back.
Which features are you talking about? Maybe some of them are already obtainable via the extensions.
I'm talking about for example the built in mail feature. How can this be brought back to Opera 22?