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  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    Look at the PeaceKeeper and HTML5 Results for IE11 and Firefox, even compared to Opera 11.64 they are poor. Of course, benchmark tests are only part of what makes a browser fast (in use), which is why I am still with Opera 11.64.

    Opera 19.0.1326.47 scored 3969 and 6/7
    Opera 11.64 build 1403 scored 3194 and 5/7
    Internet Explorer 11 scored 2392 and 5/7
    Firefox 26.0 scored 2419 and 7/7

    lol, i just tried it on my opera 12.16 ... ouch. maybe because its the linux version on an archaic thinkpad.

    pcmag wrote this (about a year ago):

    In a more real-world test of browser page-loading speed, though IE10 has been found to outstrip Chrome, Firefox, and the rest. New Relic, a Web monitoring service that measures the performance of 40 billion page views per month, found in its Real User Monitoring data that the average response time for IE10 was significantly faster than all other browsers, the only one returning a time under 4 seconds.

    i looked up the results: http://blog.newrelic.com/2012/11/06/browser-wars-a-new-installment-of-our-ongoing-series-on-browser-speed/#

    who know? half the speed test on the internet are funded by google. another page (toms hardware or something) found firefox to be the fastest, with opera next at second. depends what the criteria of the tests i suppose. but ie 11 is competitive and the test by new relic gives a lot of statistical evidence.

  • Originally posted by biggerabalone:

    ie 8 and 9 are old news and old tech.

    Yes, but IE8 is the most recent IE version available for XP users, and IE9 is the most recent IE version available for Vista users.

  • XP is end of life in April 2014 and Vista has a market share like good old Opera which is the latest version of Opera for Linux users. So what?

  • Don't forget Microsoft still has not joined W3C... Pretend I've never been here.

  • Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    Don't forget Microsoft still has not joined W3C...

    W3C Current Members

  • @Krake Oops. Sorry, I wasn't aware of that.

    @biggerabalone I wouldn't trust NSS Labs.

  • Originally posted by Krake:

    Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    Don't forget Microsoft still has not joined W3C...

    W3C Current Members

    And that's not a recent thing. :right: (random find from 1997)

  • Originally posted by missingno:

    XP is end of life in April 2014 and Vista has a market share like good old Opera which is the latest version of Opera for Linux users. So what?

    I beg to differ. On the desktop platform - which accounts for 72% of all page views - Vista's usage share is 4.0 %, whereas Presto-based Opera's usage share is 0.73 %. Source: http://statcounter.com Jan. 2014.

  • Originally posted by Staiger:

    HOWEVER - it has one major failing which renders it a show-stopper for me: it has almost no customisability at all. Damn shame, really.

    Well, at least it does have a classic menu bar that you can enable temporarily or permanently if you want, unlike Chrome and the new Opera.

  • @labourer
    Both are insignificant low.

  • Originally posted by missingno:

    Both are insignificant low.

    I suppose we can only agree to disagree here. I consider 110 millions Vista users to be a substantial number of users.

  • Originally posted by Al-Khwarizmi:

    Originally posted by Staiger:

    HOWEVER - it has one major failing which renders it a show-stopper for me: it has almost no customisability at all. Damn shame, really.

    Well, at least it does have a classic menu bar that you can enable temporarily or permanently if you want, unlike Chrome and the new Opera.

    OMG killer feature!!!!!!1111 I'm switching now!1!!1

  • Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    Originally posted by Al-Khwarizmi:

    Originally posted by Staiger:

    HOWEVER - it has one major failing which renders it a show-stopper for me: it has almost no customisability at all. Damn shame, really.

    Well, at least it does have a classic menu bar that you can enable temporarily or permanently if you want, unlike Chrome and the new Opera.

    OMG killer feature!!!!!!1111 I'm switching now!1!!1

    Sometimes you crack me up, Rafael. :lol:

  • Well thank you devs for 9 years of hard work..

    However I have to switch to Chrome most of the time now to use facebook and numerous other things are becoming buggy on 12.. I don't want a Google Chrome clone, I want Opera. Why fix what isn't broken.. This is a really sad thing IMO.. I've tried the new versions, I just can't use them, too foreign and they just don't feel like Opera anymore..

  • Originally posted by jorper496:

    Well thank you devs for 9 years of hard work..

    However I have to switch to Chrome most of the time now to use facebook and numerous other things are becoming buggy on 12.. I don't want a Google Chrome clone, I want Opera. Why fix what isn't broken.. This is a really sad thing IMO.. I've tried the new versions, I just can't use them, too foreign and they just don't feel like Opera anymore..

    You don't want Chrome so you'll switch to Chrome, yeah makes sense. Bye.

  • Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    Originally posted by jorper496:

    Well thank you devs for 9 years of hard work..

    However I have to switch to Chrome most of the time now to use facebook and numerous other things are becoming buggy on 12.. I don't want a Google Chrome clone, I want Opera. Why fix what isn't broken.. This is a really sad thing IMO.. I've tried the new versions, I just can't use them, too foreign and they just don't feel like Opera anymore..

    You don't want Chrome so you'll switch to Chrome, yeah makes sense. Bye.

    No, I use Google Chrome for the web pages that Opera 12 just doesn't work properly with. Like if I am using facebook and want to actually use the search function I have to use Chrome or else it bugs out. That along with Twitch.TV. Get off your high horse and get rid of your condescending attitude..

  • Originally posted by jorper496:

    Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    Originally posted by jorper496:

    Well thank you devs for 9 years of hard work..

    However I have to switch to Chrome most of the time now to use facebook and numerous other things are becoming buggy on 12.. I don't want a Google Chrome clone, I want Opera. Why fix what isn't broken.. This is a really sad thing IMO.. I've tried the new versions, I just can't use them, too foreign and they just don't feel like Opera anymore..

    You don't want Chrome so you'll switch to Chrome, yeah makes sense. Bye.

    No, I use Google Chrome for the web pages that Opera 12 just doesn't work properly with. Like if I am using facebook and want to actually use the search function I have to use Chrome or else it bugs out. That along with Twitch.TV. Get off your high horse and get rid of your condescending attitude..

    That doesn't change things much, you could just as well use Opera 19+ for that.

  • Originally posted by jorper496:

    However I have to switch to Chrome most of the time now to use facebook and numerous other things are becoming buggy on 12..

    Why fix what isn't broken..

    What you said first doesn't agree with what you said later. Since many pages are broken in Presto, they decided to move to the Blink rendering engine to fix those broken sites. That is true, many more sites now work in Opera Blink that did not work before. So they fixed what was broken. How about your precious FaceBook search? Does that work in Opera 19?

    The other stuff, that worked well in Opera 12 or earlier, is not implemented yet, so that's not broken either. Let's wait and see if they implement some of those important features again. Meanwhile, the open in menu is there in Opera 12 or earlier to open broken sites, just as it has always been.

  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    That is true, many more sites now work in Opera Blink that did not work before. So they fixed what was broken.

    Actually (s)he said "are becoming buggy" (emphasis mine), on a browser that hasn't been developed for what effectively comes down to one and a half years. That's completely unrelated to what you're saying. Try using Firefox, I don't know, 12 or something (also released around April/May 2012), and see what's "becoming buggy".

    Originally posted by Pesala:

    How about your precious FaceBook search? Does that work in Opera 19?

    No idea, but it definitely works for me in Opera 12.

  • After messing with the link option to fined out if you can delete all the data your self(preparing for the inevitable) i lunched o12 with a new profile and i got a popup about an update to the blink opera with a message:
    (my crappy translation)
    "We added new exciting features, that give you more speed, better workflow organization and more personalization possibilities..."
    And i fell of the chair, i know that advertising yourself is a must... but come on, there should be a limit to what b***** you can write...

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