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    • rseiler
      rseiler last edited by

      Thanks for the obscure fix for the OCSP flavor. There's another new issue with some sites though:
      Secure connection: fatal error (40) from server (Failed to connect to server. The reason may be that the encryption methods supported by the server are not enabled in the security preferences_.

      Still trying to figure that one out. This Russian thread says that it relates to Cloudfare. Apparently, the response from them is: "Yes, the Opera problem is a known issue and should be fixed on their end."
      https://archlinux.org.ru/forum/topic/14019

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      • rseiler
        rseiler last edited by

        So, yes, the problem I mentioned last time, error 40, is because of CloudFlare's new free Universal SSL service, which requires a digital signature algorithm called ECDSA. As you can see by running this test, the signature algorithms section for Opera is blank:
        https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html

        I engaged in an extended tech support back-and-forth with CloudFlare, and that's a hopeless avenue, trust me. Even their supported browsers list is wrong:
        https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl#browsers

        Opera 8?! Uh, no.

        BTW, TLS 1.1 is not enabled by default in Opera, but it's easily enabled in Prefs. It doesn't help though.

        So, if Universal SSL catches on, it's the end of the Opera 12 line. So far that I've found, it's limited to obscure sites like the one I mentioned last time and this one:
        https://dabr.eu

        Fortunately, CloudFlare's paid service doesn't seem to have the issue. If it did, Opera 12 would have already been over.

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        • Deleted User
          Deleted User last edited by

          Opera 8?! Uh, no.

          Fyi, Opera 8.54 works fine there, after you accept RSA certificate. Same with IE7.

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          • rseiler
            rseiler last edited by

            Fyi, Opera 8.54 works fine there, after you accept RSA certificate. Same with IE7.

            That's incredible. I wonder why.

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            • rseiler
              rseiler last edited by

              Has anyone figured out a workaround for Error 40 yet, or at least an explanation for how an ancient version of Opera (apparently) works yet v12 doesn't? Sites that use ECDSA continue to grow.

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              • blackbird71
                blackbird71 last edited by

                In checking the https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html site, if I employ Opera 12.14 with TLS 1.2 (and TLS 1.1 and 1) enabled, the site identifies signature algorithms of: SHA256/RSA, SHA1/RSA, MD5/RSA, SHA1/DSA. If I disable TLS 1.2, leaving enabled TLS 1.1 (and TLS 1), and revisit the site, it indeed identifies no available signature algorithms and warns the visitor about his browser not supporting TLS 1.2. (Performance is identical using Opera 11.52). It appears that the site and/or Opera doesn't provide for signature algorithms at TLS 1.1 or below.

                Also, FWIW and from what I can determine, Opera 6.x through 8.x employed protocols SSL2, SSL3, and TLS 1.0. Opera 9.x employed SSL 2 (but was not set as default), SSL3, TLS 1.0, and added TLS 1.1 support. Somewhere after 9.x (either with 10.x or 11.x), SSL 2 was dropped entirely and TLS 1.2 support was added... that being the situation with my copies of Opera 11.x and 12.x. (My Opera 10.x copy has 'gone away', so I can't check it.)

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                • rseiler
                  rseiler last edited by

                  Signature algorithms SHA256/ECDSA, SHA384/ECDSA, and SHA1/ECDSA are probably the ones that are key to this (and maybe "Elliptic curves" too, whatever that is) for the Error 40 sites to actually work. Though I find it very hard to believe that those magically exist in 8.54.

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                  • mxxxw
                    mxxxw last edited by

                    Anyone find a solution for this?

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                    • Deleted User
                      Deleted User last edited by

                      @mxxxw This will not be changed in Opera 12.
                      Use Opera 26.

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                      • mxxxw
                        mxxxw last edited by

                        "Use Opera 26." LMFAO!

                        Already have a backup browser, heavily modified FF. Just wanted to know if there's some sort of "hack" like the Google making you use the old web UI if you don't make it think you are using FF.

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                        • Deleted User
                          Deleted User last edited by

                          @mxxxw I said Opera 12 will not get any fixes related to new SSL ciphers. You cant enabled ciphers not programmed in Operas 12's internal SSL lib. There is no hack to activate nonextstent program features.

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                          • stng
                            stng last edited by

                            @mxxxw

                            The problem web-site hosted by Cloudfire, ins't?

                            Try to import chr... Opera's root certs to the Opera 12.

                            1. Download archive: https://app.box.com/s/5p00vediw04ds7xkxwgg
                            2. Close Opera
                            3. Extract archive to your Opera's profile folder (don't forget to backup all *.dat files before any manipulations). Replace(rewrite) original *.dat files with files from zip-archive.

                            This should fix the issue with Cloudfire/SSL !

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                            • mxxxw
                              mxxxw last edited by

                              Some are hosted by Cloudfire, but not all. Yes, it's the Error 40 I get. But sadly , replacing the existing cert files did not help.

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                              • Deleted User
                                Deleted User last edited by

                                Opera 12 has really strange problems with some websites and TLS.

                                I have recognized:

                                • Some websites hosted on Cloudflare servers
                                • some websites hosted elsewhere but have Cloudflare SSL certificates
                                • some websites have only modern cryptografic ciphers
                                • Some websites Opera has stranges OCSP problems

                                So i have to use Firefox or new Opera.

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                                • stng
                                  stng last edited by

                                  @mxxxw
                                  Can you provide an URL that causes the problem with SSL? What is your Opera's version - x86 or x64?

                                  Some are hosted by Cloudfire, but not all. Yes, it's the Error 40 I get. But sadly , replacing the existing cert files did not help.

                                  Hmmm. The new root certificates did helped me! At least, an web-site that uses certificate issued by Cloudfire works now. With old Opera's certs it didn't worked ( "connection failed", "fatal error (40)" ).

                                  But works now: https://archlinux.org.ru/

                                  Cert:
                                  Holder: ssl2000.cloudflare.com, CloudFlare, Inc.
                                  Issuer: GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - G2, GlobalSign nv-sa
                                  Expires: 12.10.2015 10:08:00 GMT
                                  Encryption protocol TLS v1.0 128 bit AES (2048 bit RSA/SHA)

                                  p.s. Tested in Opera 12.17 x64 (Win7 x64)

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                                  • stng
                                    stng last edited by

                                    Tested in Ubuntu 13.04 / Opera 12.14 x86. Works too for me (with replaced root certs)!

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                                    • rseiler
                                      rseiler last edited by

                                      No effect here (eztv.it, dabr.eu, archlinux.org.ru, etc).

                                      @stng, where did those files come from and what gave you the idea that they would work? Why do they seemingly work for some people? And since the files are updated every single time you run Opera, even if they did work, what good are they?

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                                      • Deleted User
                                        Deleted User last edited by

                                        @stng

                                        Try to import chr... Opera's root certs to the Opera 12.

                                        Download archive: https://app.box.com/s/5p00vediw04ds7xkxwgg
                                        Close Opera
                                        Extract archive to your Opera's profile folder (don't forget to backup all *.dat files before any manipulations). Replace(rewrite) original *.dat files with files from zip-archive.

                                        You should explain where to get the other/missing certificates and how to import, to get it work.
                                        Replacing opera certs files from a unknwon dropbox is not very secure!
                                        I would never trust such download!!!

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                                        • rseiler
                                          rseiler last edited by

                                          Or better, what he changed in which cert to make a difference.

                                          Upon disabling TLS 1.1/1.2, I found that with the above files I can get to archlinux.org.ru but not the other two sites I mentioned (and probably many more sites), so it's not a full solution. We may be close to a solution with more information from stng.

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                                          • stng
                                            stng last edited by

                                            @rseiler

                                            where did those files come from and what gave you the idea that they would work? Why do they seemingly work for some people? And since the files are updated every single time you run Opera, even if they did work, what good are they?

                                            I found this solution on the Operafan(net) forum. Opera certs were extracted from the Opera-Next-12.00-1027 snapshot build. I just re-uploaded archive in a more common ZIP-format (the original attachment was in 7zip).
                                            It fixes archlinux.org.ru (that definitely uses problem Cloudflare certificate). But doesn't help to fix other web-sites mentioned here.

                                            So what we really need to know, why it's helps with archlinux.org.ru (with cert issued by Cloudflare!), but not with others mentioned here??? Maybe we should try to use another certs?

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