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What percentage of people are adapting well to the new Opera?

  • Check out "Slimjet" if you want the options this Opera should have, It's the New One in town, it took the Direction that this Opera failed to take. I garantee you this New Browser will become big and the most popular browser out there and Opera WILL take notice of it's popularity and maybe take a more logical direction for it's browser

  • "Nice, now you use Firefox which has no "fit to width" or "toggle images" or a torrent client either! Because fuck logic!" -> fit to width, toggle images and torrent client were dealbreakers which made me use Opera 12.x even with minor site compatibility issues. Since these are gone at the moment, I chose to use Firefox now because it feels like a more finished browser, less bugs, feels faster and has more customization options than the current Opera. But no need to feel hurt and "fuck logic", because Opera still has a special place in my heart and I surely will evaluate it from time to time and adopt the new version as soon as it gets better than the rest of the pack (which I hope is to be soon).

  • I have been misjudging the current opera. 23, the one I'm using, is no 12, but it manages to deal with the web pages, which is the primary! The lack of many, MANY features was frustrating at first, but with the help of this forum I've actually managed to muster together something with extensions.. I still do feel 23 is missing some stuff, but for the basic and primary needs it does better than 12. I accept the changes because I accepted that 12 is useless a long time ago, when I switched to firefox. And I don't need to use firefox anymore! :yes: With that, it is a shame how animus of an experience the transition from 12 to 23 has been made for users..This is not friendly, rather violent. But, in the end, it works AFTER you get to know the new. So, I want to thank this forum, and namely @lem729 for guiding me and others. Might be weird or pompous of me to write this, but I don't care; after bitching so much on this forum (though, not without a reason) I feel like also bringing out the ups.

  • Not new Opera, but another Opera.

    12.15!

  • Well, I have been using the new opera since july now since 12 had more and more problems on web pages.

    I had been using opera for years, even paying for it. So have now used it as primary on 4 computers for almost 2 months.

    A few notes:

    The good:
    -Not having to use chrome on pages that did not work in 12

    • The "not responding" problem seems to have gone
    • Big+ keyboard pop up on the tablet
      -stash
      -forced to use lastpass

    The bad:
    -No sync for bookmarks, passwords. Having to use xmarks.
    -No bookmarks and side panel
    -no mail, dislike having to use another mail client. Did miss a few emails the first week since I was used to be notified in opera.

    Did check the dev 25, and happy to see the "show all bookmarks" page, so have to wait for that to be stable.

  • I have been using Opera for at least 4 years, now version 12.17. I do online banking with it because it is stable, solid and reliable.

    Now the Bank of Scotland tells me that my browser is antiquated and they recommend that I should use IE, Firefox, Safari, or Chrome. But I do not want to. What can I do?

  • Bring back the side panels and descriptions for bookmarks.

    Many Thanks.

  • Bring back the side panels and descriptions for bookmarks.

    Bookmarks are best accessed from multiple browsers. Its clear that no browser can be best at everything. Its just too complex these days. And bookmarks can be thousands if not tens of thousands in numbers. How to manage? By a VERY well thought out program just for that.

  • So....are people finding the features they need through extensions?
    And how about the Opera Mail stand alone program. Does it work better in any way than Mail in Opera 12? It wasn't a top quality thing but it was pretty good and for most people more than adequate for their needs. Guess we just get used to some stuff.

    My needs are relatively limited so, yes, I do find everything I need via extensions.

    The Opera Mail standalone program IS the exact same mail program that was present in Opera 12. It simply has the browser and other features hidden. Be aware that there are indications that Opera will abandon this program at length so you might want to reconsider your default mail program and consider something like The Bat or Thunderbird. Otherwise, Opera Mail standalone should suit your needs for the foreseeable future.

  • I've always hated Chrome because so many things are not possible compared to Opera. Then Opera uses the foundation of Chrome for their new product. Ugh. Its like Ferrari using a Toyota frame and drivetrain for their next product.

    Never mind the fact that webpage rendering is SO much better with the latest Opera. This typical comment is clearly based on a hatred of Google because the old Opera rendering engine had so many issues. Personally for me, any engine that makes the browser better at webpage rendering is welcome.

  • I have been using Opera for at least 4 years, now version 12.17. I do online banking with it because it is stable, solid and reliable.
    Now the Bank of Scotland tells me that my browser is antiquated and they recommend that I should use IE, Firefox, Safari, or Chrome. But I do not want to. What can I do?

    You really only have a few options:

    1. Install and use one of their recommended browsers, if only for that bank site.
    2. Install and try out one of the new versions of Opera on that site.
    3. Try spoofing the site by identifying/masking Opera 12.17 as Firefox or IE.
    4. Contact your bank and try to persuade them not to block usage of Opera 12.17.
    5. Move your account to a bank whose site is more compatible with older browsers.

    My own bank did a major website upgrade several years ago, which refused to work properly with Opera thereafter... I could get just halfway through my two-part log-in procedure, but it would suddenly "time out" and toss up an access error. No amount of persuasion would convince the bank to fix their site's code to accomodate Opera, and changing banks wasn't an option for me... so I've had to use IE or Firefox for their site ever since. In many banks' view of things, 97% of their customers employ Chrome, Firefox, or IE anyhow, and so they refuse to code or proof their sites for lesser-used browsers. It's just a sad reality at present.

  • You can make yourself a custom html with certain bookmarks, place it as a bookmark in your Opera, then one click - open the html bookmark, the other - "Open with..." there.

  • @goldmarie1

    I have been using Opera for at least 4 years, now version 12.17. I do online banking with it because it is stable, solid and reliable.
    Now the Bank of Scotland tells me that my browser is antiquated and they recommend that I should use IE, Firefox, Safari, or Chrome. But I do not want to. What can I do?

    Try accessing it with Opera 23+, download manually from http://opera.com

  • Years ago I used URL-Album, browser independent program. Then I get to the delicio.us, which is cross-browser website. It's possible to use Evernote, I think. But in no circumstances they can replace browser bookmarks.

  • You can make yourself a custom html with certain bookmarks, place it as a bookmark in your Opera, then one click - open the html bookmark, the other - "Open with..." there.

    This is interesting. But how to conveniently update it daily? Is it easy to add more to it quickly?

  • I hate the new Opera, it's faster, but i really miss some of the old features that made me choose Opera. I installed some extensions and unistalled in a few seconds because they all came with extra shit you don't want like register on 3rd party sites, advertise, etc.

  • This is interesting. But how to conveniently update it daily? Is it easy to add more to it quickly?

    Define quickly :lol:

  • New version is more compatible, but less usable.

    Everything is buried or missing.

    There isn't a history back button, I need to go back through every page.
    There isn't a dedicated stop button or a way to make one.
    The wands missing, so I have to go through the web page and find the button that submits the form.
    Can't enable the title bar so I have to search each page to figure out if I'm on the right forum thread.
    There is no easy way to switch through different useragent strings.
    There is no way to change settings for each individual site.
    There is no dedicated search, search string is replaced with URL.
    There is no way to display details in the download bar, and the details that do go vertically wasting space.
    Themes only change the background image.

    But it does handle ajaj and ajax better than 12. Does anyone know why so many devs are using javascript for links and images anyway?

    Also who is the chick in the photo next to the login for the opera forums, and what does she have to do with logging in?

  • I see the forum deletes carriage returns.

  • Page 4, eh? Well, I still wish somehow 12.17 could have gone on to a newer and better life, but, given a bunch of spare time, and a couple really nice guys on other Forums, I have worked through almost all my heavy gripes about 24.0

    Count me 'adapted'. Not so sure my Bride will let me put it on HER computer...she has HUNDREDS of bookmarks ! I can damn near feel the frying pan on my head!

    Giz