Linux 32 bit developed?
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@nikt11 said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
I know and I use Vivaldi, but still much short of Opera. Unfortunately, on an old laptop I have no choice but to stay Vivaldi.
How does Vivaldi compares to Opera? Is this exactly the same JavaScript, CSS and DOM support? I need to be able to test for Chrome like browser and I only have a 32 bits machine, so if Vivaldi uses the same core as Chrome and Opera, that’s enough for me (I just hope it can import Opera’s bookmarks).
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A Former User last edited by
Most Linux distros and all operating systems are leaning to 64-bit. Hardware now a days is all 64-bit now.
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@morpelli said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
Most Linux distros and all operating systems are leaning to 64-bit. Hardware now a days is all 64-bit now.
Buying a new computer is still expansive.
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zalex108 last edited by zalex108@hibou57 said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
@nikt11 said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
I know and I use Vivaldi, but still much short of Opera. Unfortunately, on an old laptop I have no choice but to stay Vivaldi.
How does Vivaldi compares to Opera? Is this exactly the same JavaScript, CSS and DOM support? I need to be able to test for Chrome like browser and I only have a 32 bits machine, so if Vivaldi uses the same core as Chrome and Opera, that’s enough for me (I just hope it can import Opera’s bookmarks).
Yes,
You can import them.If you run into problems, just export them from Opera as Html, then Import in Vivaldi.
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@zalex108 said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
If you run into problems, just export them from Opera as Html, then Import in Vivaldi.
Precisely, I was wondering how to export to HTML from Opera, I can’t find it in the menus.
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zalex108 last edited by zalex108
At least in latests versions.
If you are in an older one, look into //Flags
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A Former User last edited by
Bookmark exporting was added in opera 47, so yes, it should appear on 32bit version as well
About vivaldi.
Vivaldi is one more electron-based app. That (electron) is the reason of its huge ui customizability. Imho, the electron apps of today are what the java ones were ~10 years ago. Apps that are simple to make because they use a simple language/toolkit, but they are very demanding on resources. The onliest electron app I used to have was skypeforlinux, which I threw away once it reached version 9.x and became even worse than before.If you want a chromium-based browser to test your pages, why not use plain chromium? Almost all distros build it for 32bit and have it in their repos.
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pindos last edited by@jimunderscorep said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
Bookmark exporting was added in opera 47, so yes, it should appear on 32bit version as well
How can it appear in 32bit Opera if it is stopped developing on version 45?
As for Vivaldi it is very slow on my Asus EeePC. Better to use Chromium. It has 32bit version. -
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@zalex108 said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
At least in latests versions.
If you are in an older one, look into //Flags
Nope
I only have flags for “detect duplicate bookmarks” and “remove duplicate bookmarks”.But don’t mind, I exported with a plugin, its only issue is it did not care about folders and flattened every things. Will just have to reorganise it all
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@jimunderscorep said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
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If you want a chromium-based browser to test your pages, why not use plain chromium? Almost all distros build it for 32bit and have it in their repos.@pindos said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
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As for Vivaldi it is very slow on my Asus EeePC. Better to use Chromium. It has 32bit version.I already tested Chrome and it is was more huge than Opera, that’s why I used Opera. But if Vivaldi is not a good option (I quickly tested it and not really liked it, too much gadgets I don’t need), I will go for Chromium, although I’m not fan of its paranoid political orientation, however neither that of Opera since it became adblock and anti‑payment propagandist, anyway.
I wish we could have applications designed for users, not designed to drag people with political delirium. But since the typical web user is not willing to pay a single cent for anything immaterial, I’m afraid that’s just dreaming …
Firefox is neither a good option for the same reasons (political delirium) and it really quickly consume a lot of memory
There is not good alternative (anyway, Opera was perfect only at its early age)
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zalex108 last edited by
@hibou57
Ouch!
Then use V7 Bookmarks, it keeps folders and bookmarks tree."You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". · Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
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@zalex108 said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
@hibou57
Ouch!
Then use V7 Bookmarks, it keeps folders and bookmarks tree.Waw, perfectly exported. Thanks
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
Just tested Chromium. The 32 bits build seems up to date, it’s at this time at version 63, which is the last stable. Just checked is supports ES6 modules whose support was missing from Opera 46. It’s also more huge than Opera, clearly, near as twice the disk space at least.
Will go with it anyway (no other choice) …
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@nikt11 said in Linux 32 bit developed?:
@kghn "The .deb installer I downloaded from opera.com didn't work" what does that mean, what are the errors?
I downloaded opera 45 from ftp: https://ftp.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera/desktop/45.0.2552.898/linux/ and install on Debian 9.2: dpkg -i opera-stable_45.0.2552.898_i386.deb
Everything works fine. Debian 4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28) i686 GNU/Linuxjust wanted to say thanks for this recommendation
I'm running Xubuntu 16.04.2 on a bunch of x86 machines I have lying around, and didn't think there were any versions higher than Opera 12.
but your installation worked for me, and I'm happy to have a decently updated version.also regarding something from earlier...
why I use Opera over the rest is because of it's security and low memory use.
as far as I'm aware, most other browsers just don't compare.
also, most of my PCs have 2GB with only a few having 4GB (I have nothing higher)
and I believe Opera still uses less memory than FireFox.anyways, hopefully my use will help spur development back up, as there's many reasons 32bit PCs are still used.
security is pretty much the only reason the 32bit build should ever see an update...
like how M$ had to patch XP a final time for a major flaw.
