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Hey, we have a Lounge!

sgunhouse
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Surprised I get to be the first one here.

Okay, maybe I should be semi-official. The Lounge is intended for friendly chatter, games, and ... well, anything that doesn't fit into the Opera-related forums but isn't against the rules. No spam, no hacks, no buying or selling stuff - the old timers should know the rules. (I don't work for Opera Software, but I am a moderator. As such I don't make the rules, I'm just restating what they were in the old forums.)

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spartaa
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interesting ..

pesala
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What use is a lounge without smilies (>_<)

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    So, I can do that :-P and that :'( and @?!!'1+1=3 this. Oh, don't forget that :@ and :$ this too. I could do all that without breaking the rules? That's cool! I'm feeling better already. X_x

    frenzie
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    You can use images manually Big grin

    pesala
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    We could, if we were willing to write some code, which is not really a viable option, even if one knows the right format:

    [img]http://thedndsanctuary.eu/Smileys/myopera/bigsmile.gif[/img]

    There's a spam block on my account because I posted more than twice in 90 seconds. Now I have to wait for 10 minutes. Great!

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    There's a spam block on my account because I posted more than twice in 90 seconds. Now I have to wait for 10 minutes. Great!

    Do tell me your joking pesala. Words fail me!!!

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    “Do tell me your joking pesala. Words fail me!!!”

    Do you mean that you're surprised that there is a spam block in force, or are you surprised that I am surprised that it is so restrictive on ordinary users?

    On My Opera the limit was 30 seconds between posts, which is reasonable. Most posts take at least that long to write. A genuine user doesn't just use cut and post to repost the same text many times.

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    Do you mean that you're surprised that there is a spam block in force, or are you surprised that I am surprised that it is so restrictive on ordinary users?

    It was the "Now I have to wait for 10 minutes" part.

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    We could, if we were willing to write some code, which is not really a viable option, even if one knows the right format:

    There's a place where My Opera smilies grow. :whistle:

    I asked, and in response Opera graciously released the My Opera smilies under a permissive license. But I have no idea why they don't use their own smilies anymore.

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    Never hung out much in the old lounge. Funny that I should be one of thefirstdozen to find it. ;-)

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    “Opera graciously released the My Opera smilies under a permissive license.”

    Does that mean we're free to use them elsewhere?

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    Hello? Where is my post to the missing German "General Topic"-section?

    Deleted? Than I want to know why? They are missing - that was not joke!

    spartaa
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    For Forum's Pic Profile / avatar .

    http://en.gravatar.com/

    museatlantis
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    Just thought I would say hello :-) everything has changed

    zisele
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      Can introduction thread be allow here in lounge? I hope so because I didn't get a chance to greet.

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      @zisele: It's the lounge. Go ahead. :)

      Hey, everyone. I'm sure some of the old My Opera people might remember me from well over a decade ago long before I started working for Opera. I hadn't posted in the forums in a while. There's a lot of work left on the forums to do, so stay tuned. Things are indeed a bit simple and bareboned, but we're working to improve things. I would personally like to see smilies back. I'll see what I can do, but I can't make any promises, of course.

      @pesala: Like I said it's been a while since I posted on the My Opera forums. You said that the limit was 30 seconds between posts. Do you remember what the waiting time period was? Was it 10 minutes long or just like a minute or something like that?

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      @khadgar Thirty seconds, period. Additional time would be adding insult to injury.

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      @frenzie Okay. Thanks. I'll get it looked into. It's likely just set to whatever the default is.

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      @khadgar and @frenzie

      IIRC there was a stricter limit for new users. Once you had racked up a number of posts (perhaps 20?) then you could post every 30 seconds without limit.

      They tried several different settings on the Spam filter.

      What I cannot understand is, after spending 10 years designing and refining the code for the My Opera forums, why do you need to throw it all away and start again? It's a pointless duplication of effort, and only frustrates your users no end.

      We recently had this issue on the Serif forums. The had (and still have) a well-established and vibrant support forum

      http://forums.serif.com/showthread.php?t=138635

      They decided they needed something better, so they spent loads of time creating Community Plus:

      https://community.serif.com/forum

      I think that you will agree that it's a whole lot better than these new Opera Forums (though it still has some issues), but it is still in Beta, and the old forums are still open. When they get it properly fixed, and the old forums have outlived their usefulness, then they may archive the old forums, closing them to new members, but leaving the threads available because they contain a ton of useful information about older product versions, and general knowledge that applies to any version.

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      Well, we'll not have any useful info at Opera! :p

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      IIRC there was a stricter limit for new users. Once you had racked up a number of posts (perhaps 20?) then you could post every 30 seconds without limit.

      That would certainly make sense. Another (more annoying) approach would be to require a CAPTCHA or some such for the first few posts, although these days I think computers might already be better at 'em than humans.

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      You can use images manually

      How exactly?

      And you used a "hidden" link in another thread - again, how?

      l33t4opera
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      Hi Josh, Markdown syntax for images: ~~~ Caption text ~~~ or ~~~ Caption text ~~~ and to make links: ~~~ The link text ~~~ or ~~~ The link text ~~~

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      @l33t4opera

      I am not even going to bother trying to learn that syntax. @username I can manage, or bold or italics but I am going to paste links as text:

      http://example.net/

      On the CommunityPlus forum https://community.serif.com/forum

      There are buttons for Bold and Italics, and for inserting Images from a URL or from disk.

      There are also buttons for code, hyperlinks, quotes, horizontal rules, bullet lists and numbered lists. Plus two more for undo/redo.

      These basics are essential. Most users are not geeks for whom writing in code is second nature. I am familiar with many forms of code, but it's a real problem remembering which to use on which forum.

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      I can se no "caption"!:(. Thank for the links syntax! :beer:

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      "My Smiley's Haven" How about this?

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      !(http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/3DemoticonCHRISTMAS002.gif) (Can it be just an image?)

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      !(http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/3DemoticonCHRISTMAS002.gif"") !(http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/3DemoticonCHRISTMAS002.gif)!

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      O'k, I see you JUST NEED a caption, so it's obligatory to have a pair of brackets between "!" and the parentheses

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      Yep Pesala, I see your point, but unfortunately, as far as I know, this is what the users of this forum have for the time being. Nevertheless, it's possible, that the Developers, will implement more user-friendly interface in the future, but here and now, it's new forum engine, fresh start, and it certainly needs some fixes, like for example "editing comment" bug, and many additional developments, and improvements.

      These basics are essential. I agree with you Pesala, perhaps in the near, or distant future, all of these functions, or at least part of them, will be implemented in the forum, it would be really nice.

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      Miss you My Opera.

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      The DnD Sanctuary is down!

      Confirmed. Since yesterday. I'm waiting for news.

      joshl
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      I'm "chatting" with Michael on his blog. The Fb folks haven't been spotted online yet.

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      The DnD Sanctuary is down!

      Confirmed. Since yesterday. I'm waiting for news.

      What if it's opera.com guys' conspiracy to bring us back here?

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      The DnD Sanctuary is down!

      Confirmed. Since yesterday. I'm waiting for news.

      Well, technically it's the primary DNS server that's down. I'm not sure if this is really the proper place, but a mod can always delete this post if not. This is a cross-post:


      Okay, here's the story of what happened:

      The primary DNS server is apparently down:

      $ host -a thedndsanctuary.eu ns01.weservit.nl
      Trying "thedndsanctuary.eu"
      ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
      

      The secondary DNS server is fine:

      $ host -a thedndsanctuary.eu ns02.weservit.eu
      Trying "thedndsanctuary.eu"
      Using domain server:
      Name: ns02.weservit.eu
      [snip]
      

      But! Unfortunately there a typo snuck into the DNS record back when we set it up:

      $ host -t ns thedndsanctuary.eu
      thedndsanctuary.eu name server ns01.weservit.eu.
      thedndsanctuary.eu name server ns01.weservit.nl.
      

      It's fixed now:

      $ host -t ns thedndsanctuary.eu
      thedndsanctuary.eu name server ns01.weservit.nl.
      thedndsanctuary.eu name server ns02.weservit.eu.
      

      I apologize for any inconvenience.

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      *Originally posted by Frans:

      http://thedndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=115.msg13921#msg13921 Shown by Chrome: Oops! Google Chrome could not find thedndsanctuary.eu

      sgunhouse
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      Works here. Mind you, he had a typo in the "It's fixed now ..." above.

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      Works here. Works NOW! :lol:

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        السلام عليكم

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        See, now I have to use chrome to translate. :(

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          does opera still crash with the new update?

          4rond
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            im afraid to use the update!

            sgunhouse
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            Platform? We don't even know if you mean desktop, mobile or Mini.

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            :sherlock:

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              @sgunhouse There is a crash with desktop platform too? Damn, Google can't made anything right these days! :moriarty:

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              For me, Opera doesn't crash on either desktop or Android ... (I don't have Mini installed though).

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              Hmmm, the lounge. I'll have a Corona with some lime. This is a good place to get this off my chest. I did a few quick posts, trying to help newbies (while I saw, it seemed, a slew of posts of spammers advertising) when suddenly I got a lighting message from Opera -- lol -- warning me that I was spamming, and freezing me for 600 seconds, or something like that.I'd posted my stuff, I guess, too quickly. So draw and quarter me! I'm a fast typist. It's like I was arrested by Opera, while the criminal advertisers with their long list of links were running amok in the forum.

              There, I got that off my chest. Burp! I think I need another beer.

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              :beer:

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