They were in a regular window, but they are not in History, since I have not activated them recently (on browser start tabs are loaded as inactive/frozen and have to be activated to be loaded and stored in history).

I'm afraid information about all those closed tabs has been wiped out of Opera Mobile memory in the moment of closing them...

BTW, only about 10 tabs are on the list of Last closed tabs, so looks like the others are lost for good...

@michaeljones: I was a dedicated user of the real Opera since ver. 5.01 (released in year 2000) up till version 12.18 - until it was a feature rich, customizable, well-integrated browsing suite based on Presto engine, being developed by the team of the founder Jón S. von Tetzchner.

When 17 years of work on the real Opera was ditched and new pseudo-Opera was started being developed, with close to zero features compared to the original, all the good reasons to use it disappeared. The new owners and CEO said they will rebuild the features but I knew they lied. Their clear intention was no longer to make a great browser, but to make more money, limiting costs as much as possible.

I was thrilled that Opera was reborn under name Vivaldi with Jón S. von Tetzchner as the captain and owner again. I use it since its first alpha version and it is well polished already with lot's of great, well-integrated features (much more than pseudo-Opera has) and being improved actively both in terms of big features as well as polishing of details.

I need a browser that gives me full control without compromises, with plenty of useful, well-integrated features for high usability to work efficiently and conveniently, and which I can trust on privacy. These are the very reasons why I do not use the pseudo-Opera but Vivaldi, which continues the spirit of the real Opera.

Hi,

This could not be any worse UI design.
I pressed the three dot button on the tab bar in the top-right corner and instead of pressing Last closed tabs I accidentally pressed the option next to it (one down on the list) - Close all tabs in effect CLOSING ALL OF MY 100+ tabs.
I cannot image how could someone put such extremely destructive option next to an option to retrieve some content...

I have only one question and hope there is a positive answer to it - can these 100+ tabs be retrieved ANYhow? This can include hacks to ANY extent really, I really need to retrieve them.

Thak you for help!

@coffeelover said in Why Use Opera?:

@wojcieche Psuedo-Opera most certainly is derogatory or you would not have used it.

I need to use some term to distinguish the real, original Opera from a very different application that received the same label, but has almost nothing in common. I like to be precise and I believe this is a fair and perfectly adequate term. I hope you can understand my point of view.

Facts speak for themselves and you're denying them. Vivaldi's days are numbered unless they find a way to make money to keep them afloat. Perhaps charging users for the suite might give them more time but in the end... without enough users they'll fail.

I am not sure which facts I deny :-), but worry not - Vivaldi has a working business model and is earning. And with some 3+ billion internet users a few millions will appreciate it to keep it afloat. It is not such niche as you seem to think - see more on this below.

@coffeelover said in Why Use Opera?:

@sgunhouse I understand that but the "fact" remains... most users don't want a suite. And that is the bottom line and the reason why Vivaldi will never really take off. It's been designed for a very small niche and therefore has this built-in propensity for future failure. I still say that within a few years we'll find Vivaldi a curiosity of the past.

Actually... it is much different.
The sad truth I see is that nowadays all major browsers no longer compete with quality, as they are very similar - stripped down from features. Instead they compete with... distribution channels. Advertising and bundling to push the browser onto as many users' computers as possible, often without their explicit permission or even knowledge. And once it installs, user checks what is this new icon and starts using, as it makes no much difference to him from his similar other browser... It cannot be called a conscious choice based on browser quality and features and even more you cannot tell if user refuses to use a suite - especially if he hasn't tried any (meaning Vivaldi as the only representative). So you take your "facts" that users do not like suite from nowhere really...

And the reality is that suite is not for geeks only. Nobody says user has to use 100% functionality (even I do not) and change every setting to appreciate an application. The reality is that a few handy features can win the heart of the user, especially if he hasn't noticed any special features in his current browser. Some users appreciate split screen view of tabs, some appreciate integrated notes, some appreciate screenshots, some web panels. When they are shown a few handy things which their current browser didn't have, they can start appreciating the suite, even when they use just a small part of the available functionality. And if the UI is clean and simple, other features do not disturb, but still with time user can discover some more of the build-in features and become tied to the suite even more.

Just wanted to get this out for your consideration since you seem to have a very different perception of the matter. Have a great day!

Oh, and I brew coffee too I prefer light-roasted from dripper Hario V60. I am not from US, so 100% Arabica specialty coffee brands I use will probably not be of interest for you...

@coffeelover said in Why Use Opera?:

@wojcieche Psuedo-Opera most certainly is derogatory or you would not have used it.

I need to use some term to distinguish the real, original Opera from a very different application that received the same label, but has almost nothing in common. I like to be precise and I believe this is a fair and perfectly adequate term. I hope you can understand my point of view.

Facts speak for themselves and you're denying them. Vivaldi's days are numbered unless they find a way to make money to keep them afloat. Perhaps charging users for the suite might give them more time but in the end... without enough users they'll fail.

I am not sure which facts I deny :-), but worry not - Vivaldi has a working business model and is earning. And with some 3+ billion internet users a few millions will appreciate it to keep it afloat. It is not such niche as you seem to think - see more on this below.

@coffeelover said in Why Use Opera?:

@sgunhouse I understand that but the "fact" remains... most users don't want a suite. And that is the bottom line and the reason why Vivaldi will never really take off. It's been designed for a very small niche and therefore has this built-in propensity for future failure. I still say that within a few years we'll find Vivaldi a curiosity of the past.

Actually... it is much different.
The sad truth I see is that nowadays all major browsers no longer compete with quality, as they are very similar - stripped down from features. Instead they compete with... distribution channels. Advertising and bundling to push the browser onto as many users' computers as possible, often without their explicit permission or even knowledge. And once it installs, user checks what is this new icon and starts using, as it makes no much difference to him from his similar other browser... It cannot be called a conscious choice based on browser quality and features and even more you cannot tell if user refuses to use a suite - especially if he hasn't tried any (meaning Vivaldi as the only representative). So you take your "facts" that users do not like suite from nowhere really...

And the reality is that suite is not for geeks only. Nobody says user has to use 100% functionality (even I do not) and change every setting to appreciate an application. The reality is that a few handy features can win the heart of the user, especially if he hasn't noticed any special features in his current browser. Some users appreciate split screen view of tabs, some appreciate integrated notes, some appreciate screenshots, some web panels. When they are shown a few handy things which their current browser didn't have, they can start appreciating the suite, even when they use just a small part of the available functionality. And if the UI is clean and simple, other features do not disturb, but still with time user can discover some more of the build-in features and become tied to the suite even more.

Just wanted to get this out for your consideration since you seem to have a very different perception of the matter. Have a great day!

Oh, and I brew coffee too I prefer light-roasted from dripper Hario V60. I am not from US, so 100% Arabica specialty coffee brands I use will probably not be of interest for you...

@wojcieche said in Why Use Opera?:

Ctrl+Tab

I meant RMB+scroll but cannot edit anymore to correct it.

@coffeelover: "pseudo-Opera" is not a derogatory term, but a very, very, very well deserved one after a hostile takeover of the company against the founder and changing direction followed by 17 years by the founder by 180 degrees, against interests of its users, solely for the (expected) benefit of investors.
Going further it was arrogant, shameless chutzpah explicitly intended to mislead users, to call the new Chromium browser Opera 15 as if it was a straightforward update to Presto Opera 12.x. Which it was not. Sure, the owners of the company could do what they wanted but they decided to do the above, so they have their consequences. If they called the new browser a new name and version 1.0, being honest with what they did, I would not use "pseudo" prefix. I hope this is clear for you now.

Making a suite is not a step backwards, but a step in the only proper direction (considering also that UI is clean and consistent - and it is in Vivaldi). And interestingly, it is not subjective, it can sure be proven mathematically that you are wrong on saying suite is a step backwards - because having a well-integrated, customizable suite with lot's of useful features provides higher usability and allows to browse faster, easier, more efficiently compared to a browser stripped down from features with only some features added inconsistently by extensions, making the browser a Frankenstein. Switching tabs by Ctrl+Tab, Quick Commands, search engine nicknames as just 3 small examples, are self-explanatory in terms of how they make browsing faster and more convenient.

I have a saying - Vivaldi is for users who demand/expect more - and the more you demand, the more you will appreciate the features and level of customizability provided by Vivaldi. BUT even if someone is a basic user and demands little, he will still lose nothing by using Vivaldi, but will get some small little things like real progress bar with counter in the URL field which will clearly tell him (unlike spinning wheels) whether the page is loading or is dead; the tab Trash in the corner will allow him reopen tabs or even windows with all history easily; and with time he may discover a few more things that will make his browsing faster, easier and more convenient. And it is surely easier to discover something that is build-in, than go out and look for clumsy extensions. Relying 100% on extensions to integrate functionality was always a broken by design paradigm for me from this and a few other reasons (like security, performance).

Your portentous predictions against Vivaldi do not have much real basis, they seem to be just effect of reading too much hype news about AI. I see that you are unable to explain your point - why and how browsing is supposed to change drastically due to AI and why Vivaldi is supposed not to keep up with it. No matter what AI does, I will still want to go to sites I do want to go and will do it on my own. And Vivaldi is synced... will soon be mobile... portable... on small devices... - so how is Vivaldi not keeping up with the modern trends..? Saying integrated mail client makes no sense just because nobody else is doing it proves your lack of arguments on the matter and that you do not understand what being visionary means. Following the crowd is not a way to add unique value my friend...

@michaeljones: I was a dedicated user of the real Opera since ver. 5.01 (released in year 2000) up till version 12.18 - until it was a feature rich, customizable, well-integrated browsing suite based on Presto engine, being developed by the team of the founder Jón S. von Tetzchner.

When 17 years of work on the real Opera was ditched and new pseudo-Opera was started being developed, with close to zero features compared to the original, all the good reasons to use it disappeared. The new owners and CEO said they will rebuild the features but I knew they lied. Their clear intention was no longer to make a great browser, but to make more money, limiting costs as much as possible.

I was thrilled that Opera was reborn under name Vivaldi with Jón S. von Tetzchner as the captain and owner again. I use it since its first alpha version and it is well polished already with lot's of great, well-integrated features (much more than pseudo-Opera has) and being improved actively both in terms of big features as well as polishing of details.

I need a browser that gives me full control without compromises, with plenty of useful, well-integrated features for high usability to work efficiently and conveniently, and which I can trust on privacy. These are the very reasons why I do not use the pseudo-Opera but Vivaldi, which continues the spirit of the real Opera.

They were in a regular window, but they are not in History, since I have not activated them recently (on browser start tabs are loaded as inactive/frozen and have to be activated to be loaded and stored in history).

I'm afraid information about all those closed tabs has been wiped out of Opera Mobile memory in the moment of closing them...

BTW, only about 10 tabs are on the list of Last closed tabs, so looks like the others are lost for good...

Hi,

This could not be any worse UI design.
I pressed the three dot button on the tab bar in the top-right corner and instead of pressing Last closed tabs I accidentally pressed the option next to it (one down on the list) - Close all tabs in effect CLOSING ALL OF MY 100+ tabs.
I cannot image how could someone put such extremely destructive option next to an option to retrieve some content...

I have only one question and hope there is a positive answer to it - can these 100+ tabs be retrieved ANYhow? This can include hacks to ANY extent really, I really need to retrieve them.

Thak you for help!