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opera is not what it used to be

  • They want to target a major audience.

    And I want to be superhero but reality is different. Truth is that new Opera didnt gain new users but upset the old ones and there is still only few percent of market for Opera like it was before. Nothing change but question is what will happend when old Opera users will migrate to somthing else...

    No change with amount of user but upset old users... still whats the deal?

  • Truth is that new Opera didnt gain

    Incorrect. Opera usage is on the raise, not falling.

    but upset the old ones

    As Woodrow Wilson once said: 'If you want to make enemies, try to change something.'

    No change with amount of user but upset old users... still whats the deal?

    Every single time you post here its just to complain about stuff. Why bother? We can't change anything for you. You're just wasting your time.

  • Incorrect. Opera usage is on the raise, not falling.

    I depends on what stats are you looking at but in average Opera stays about 1,4% maybe 1,5% of whole market.
    +- 0,5% cant be cosidered rising or falling its just stats errors. Anyway:

    W3counter +0,8%
    Statcounter +0,5%
    w3school -0,3%
    netmarketshare -0,12%
    akamai -0,6%

    In average its about +0,06% for 2 years its not really good at all. Also I didnt say that Opera is falling but stays the same.

  • Few months ago the idea of using browser other than Opera 12 wouldn't even cross my mind. After setting things up I gave it a try and now I'm glad they made that choice. It isn't the same but still no other browser does it like Opera!

  • Few months ago the idea of using browser other than Opera 12 wouldn't even cross my mind. After setting things up I gave it a try and now I'm glad they made that choice. It isn't the same but still no other browser does it like Opera!

    Its just empty words... new Opera dont have any special features that others dont have. Changes between old and new Opera are that new Opera have less features than old one and same features are more complicated in new Opera.

  • You don't like the new Opera. We get it. We understand. You don't need to keep going on and on about it. Just stop using it, stop coming to this forum and spare us all.

  • You don't like the new Opera. We get it. We understand. You don't need to keep going on and on about it. Just stop using it, stop coming to this forum and spare us all.

    Its not about If I like or not new Opera but about truth. New Opera dont have any special features. Its same as Firefox or Chrome... its just another browser with extensions, nothing speacial. Sadly lots of speacial/cool/good (whatever you want) features was lost and probably cant be replaced with extensions.

  • So what? You've said your piece. We've heard your opinion. You are beating a dead horse. Its not going back to the way it used to be. Deal with it. Move on. Get a hobby or something.

  • Running a browser (Opera 12) with tons of built in functions forcing everyone to use them wasn't a great idea. Sure we liked it at the time but still. The new Opera sure is not as easy but it can achieve far more than the old one in every way.

  • Running a browser (Opera 12) with tons of built in functions forcing everyone to use them wasn't a great idea. Sure we liked it at the time but still. The new Opera sure is not as easy but it can achieve far more than the old one in every way.

    Forcing is not the right word. I was surprised when my friends tell me that they didnt even know about some features that old Opera have... for example mail, torrent, tab stacking, link, bookmarks, button customizations etc. The point is if you didnt want to use the features you didnt even know they are there... no forcing just free options and its always better to have more options. The new Opera is not that bad but there are lots of very annoying things like wired working features and lots of missing stuff or bad implemented stuff... download dialog, tab stacking, button customization, bookmark organization, missing mouse gestures... most of it its not hard to implement but it takes sooooooo long. 2 years is lots of time to implement at least some Opera standart features.

  • Running a browser (Opera 12) with tons of built in functions forcing everyone to use them wasn't a great idea. Sure we liked it at the time but still. The new Opera sure is not as easy but it can achieve far more than the old one in every way.

    What are the things that new opera can achieve more so than old opera?

  • Running a browser (Opera 12) with tons of built in functions forcing everyone to use them wasn't a great idea. Sure we liked it at the time but still. The new Opera sure is not as easy but it can achieve far more than the old one in every way.

    Forcing is not the right word. I was surprised when my friends tell me that they didnt even know about some features that old Opera have... for example mail, torrent, tab stacking, link, bookmarks, button customizations etc. The point is if you didnt want to use the features you didnt even know they are there... no forcing just free options and its always better to have more options. The new Opera is not that bad but there are lots of very annoying things like wired working features and lots of missing stuff or bad implemented stuff... download dialog, tab stacking, button customization, bookmark organization, missing mouse gestures... most of it its not hard to implement but it takes sooooooo long. 2 years is lots of time to implement at least some Opera standart features.

    It is forcing, these functions will be running weather you use them or not. The only way to avoid that was by using another browser. Yes It takes time to put things together again and it is a free software after all. There are tons of ways to bring something similar to what you use to, you just have to search and ask or wait 😃

  • 😢 It lags a lot now in compare to the old Opera i think its because of the update in the features and the user interface which has changed in time now i have 3 gb ram on DUalcore and it still lags after like 4 tabs are open this is the version Im using of Opera: http://www.filesmag.com/2015/04/opera-web-browser-free-download.html

  • Running a browser (Opera 12) with tons of built in functions forcing everyone to use them wasn't a great idea. Sure we liked it at the time but still. The new Opera sure is not as easy but it can achieve far more than the old one in every way.

    What are the things that new opera can achieve more so than old opera?

    Old Opera wasn't that stable (one little thing goes wrong the entire browser crashes), the way it updates itself was pain, many sites are not fully supported..

    What are the things that were so great about the old Opera?

    • Mail is the same just set shortcut to it.
    • Bookmarks are better this way and can be access just as quick (they built sidebar for you though).
    • Speed dial is much better now.
    • Inspecting and other tools are far better.
    • Right click the main bar to save you session as speed dial folder is just as good as sessions.

    The only thing I miss is the notes function, nothing came close to that one.

  • 😢 It lags a lot now in compare to the old Opera i think its because of the update in the features and the user interface which has changed in time now i have 3 gb ram on DUalcore and it still lags after like 4 tabs are open this is the version Im using of Opera: http://www.filesmag.com/2015/04/opera-web-browser-free-download.html

    That shouldn't be happening, for me compared to the old one now it is fast and super light.

    Try installing the beta version

  • The only reason you can't see noticeable differences between 12 and 28 is that you didn't use about the 90% of 12's features, this discussion is senseless XD

  • The only reason you can't see noticeable differences between 12 and 28 is that you didn't use about the 90% of 12's features, this discussion is senseless XD

    Oh I did, it appears that you're the one that didn't since you couldn't see the down side to it.

  • The only reason you can't see noticeable differences between 12 and 28 is that you didn't use about the 90% of 12's features, this discussion is senseless XD

    Oh I did, it appears that you're the one that didn't since you couldn't see the down side to it.

    RSS, IRC, an AMAZING password manager, customization, an actual mail client (no, the deprecated/dead software called Opera Mail is not), notes, contacts, Presto's RAM consumption, torrent client, the sidebar, dragonfly...

    And I might be missing some of them as I didn't used them for almost 2 years, but 28 IS miles away from 12 and that's a fact, so it's pointless to discuss it.

    Said that, the last releases seem to be improving a lot the new Opera

  • So what? You've said your piece. We've heard your opinion. You are beating a dead horse. Its not going back to the way it used to be. Deal with it. Move on. Get a hobby or something.

    Perhaps some people think if they say it many times, accuse the Opera team of not caring/going backwards, etc, blah, blah, etc, they might shame the team into resurrecting v12 (or at least its features). Just out of interest, I wouldn't like to think about the amount of money I've spent on paid for software that no longer exists - oh the bane of the computer age!

  • Mail is the same just set shortcut to it.
    Bookmarks are better this way and can be access just as quick (they built sidebar for you though).
    Speed dial is much better now.
    Inspecting and other tools are far better.
    Right click the main bar to save you session as speed dial folder is just as good as sessions.

    Is it joke?!

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