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Opera 28: new experimental start page looks ugly

  • I agree, this new speed dial looks AWFUL and now it's more difficult to find anything. :down: They should at least allow the extensions to manipulate the start page, so you could customize it - or at least be able to change the items shape and show icons instead of page screenshots, because the current start page is just terrible... :yuck:

  • Take a look at the Speed Dial in Opera 29 for a taste of whats coming.

  • lando242, where can I download it? And should I? I was searching for the download link, but couldn't find it. I'd very appreciate if you post it here. Thank you in advance!

    PS: Opera, give us back the normal-looking speed dial, people want tiles, not screenshots! The websites look all the same, there's no use in screenshots, who even could think that it's a good idea? OMG!

  • lando242, where can I download it? And should I? I was searching for the download link, but couldn't find it. I'd very appreciate if you post it here. Thank you in advance!
    PS: Opera, give us back the normal-looking speed dial, people want tiles, not screenshots! The websites look all the same, there's no use in screenshots, who even could think that it's a good idea? OMG!

    dev versions can be downloaded from the desktop team blog, here's the latest one: http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2015/03/sidebar-extensions-speed-dial-syncing-customizable-shortcuts-opera-developer-29/

    The new speed dial in the dev version allows you to customize the thumbnail from the heart menu (so you can choose a full website screenshot, the coast style text based tile etc... for each dial, like you can already do with the bookmarks manager thumbnails)

    Here's some examples: http://imgur.com/a/kIwnK

    I think the new sd is coming along nicely

  • It is interesting why they did not stay with Opera 26 design of an experimental page.... ? Speed dial in Opera 29 dev is as fast as in Opera 26 in my computer (I can not say this about Opera 27 & 28). Opera 29 works well. But why they transferred navigation bar into the bottom of the page? Why they didn't give us the possibility of choosing what we prefer? What happened to famous before (till opera 12.17) "Customization"!!! of that browser?

  • It took 19 years to get to Opera 12. There had only been 2 years since the release of 15. Rome wasn't built in a day. Go dig up a copy of Opera 4 and give it a spin to compare the development times.

  • the heart menu in opera 29 doesn't work - just shows white page. and if i understood it right - because of that i can't customize tiles in speed dial... how do i get the heart menu working?

  • Read the release notes, its a know bug. Close the browser and restart and it works. Reading documentation is pretty much mandatory if you want to be using the testing releases.

  • lando242, with all respect, I don't want to read the manual to a browser, I just want a normal looking speed dial! And I'm russian - my english isn't that good, plus I don't have that much time... Would you be so kind to post a clear instruction?

  • I already did.

    Close the browser and restart

  • i think opera need more options about speed dial thumnails like displaying icon-webs or sites instead of ads-screenshots; numbered; color customize - background, color of letters...)

  • i recommend that anyone who really love oprea to try using opera dev 29 it's faster and some ext on speed dial now avaliable on new start page (the speed dial-ext only enable in old start page - opera stable)

    in opera dev 29 new start page by default will be ebabled and no longer load sreenshot just like opera stable; it's more stable - all speed dial thumnails will displayed as url, no icon-webs , however it doesnt have a refresh button and designed style of the updated new start page will be the same

  • I agree that 'tiles' speed dial was more readable!

  • Don't worry, they will fix it!:)

  • goldengobelin
    question is: why did they need to ruin it in the first place?

    lando242
    I managed to open the heart panel.
    Alright, in opera 29 the express panel does look better, but it still not the same as in opera 26-27! v29 lets you replace screenshots with domain names, but where are the favicons (logotypes) of bookmarked sites? Only the default tiles had the favicons and the google tile, but others just look like www.website_name.com! So how do I make the favicons show up in tiles instead of domain names?

  • Update: and some pages for some reason are still being bookmarked as screenshots! Plus, some tiles have a random picture from the bookmarked site, and I don't understand how opera chooses the pic. For example, one of the tiles shows an adverstizement pic from the bookmarked page

  • When you bookmark a page in 29 its up to you to choose what you want to show up on the tile. Thats what the left and right arrows in the heart menu around the picture are for. And, as I said before, its a development release. Changes might still be made to it and bookmarks as a whole have been evolving every release or so for months now.

  • lando242
    So, I have to bookmark all my sites all over again in order to get them right looking?.. Is there a way to change the look of the tile AFTER I bookmarked a page?

    And do you know why in each update the developers of opera ruin something? What's the logic? I'm really curious, cuz on hi-tech sites opera gets highly negative feedback from commenters, and really agressively replies. All this flaming causes a feel that developers never listen to the users, but FOR WHOM they develope the browser then? I can't get it! If in v26 there was a button to switch the design of express panel, then i had to search a necessary flag (standart users won't even think of that), and now I have to use an unstable developer version in order to get back my favorite design of express panel. Either kill it at last, or get it straight, dear opera developers! Many thanks, I still use opera.

    PS: Dear opera developers! PLEASE do not make a change to the browser that will cause it to shut down if the last tab is closed, like it is now in all other browsers - that really irritates! Another reason why I use opera - it doesn't let you close the last tab, thus the browser can't be closed accidentaly.

  • So, I have to bookmark all my sites all over again in order to get them right looking?.. Is there a way to change the look of the tile AFTER I bookmarked a page?

    Yes, there is. As I said above you change them from the heart menu. This is part of your problem dude. You don't want to 'read the manual' yet you have no clue how to operate the browser. Well, thats the price you pay for willful ignorance. If you spent half the time reading the documentation that you did complaining on these forums you wouldn't even need these forums.

    All this flaming causes a feel that developers never listen to the users

    Vocal minority. All rage and furry but no substance. Opera's market share has been going UP for the last year.

    standart users won't even think of that

    Standard users don't care.

    Dear opera developers!

    They don't spend much time on this forum.

  • lando242, where can I download it? And should I? I was searching for the download link, but couldn't find it. I'd very appreciate if you post it here. Thank you in advance!
    PS: Opera, give us back the normal-looking speed dial, people want tiles, not screenshots! The websites look all the same, there's no use in screenshots, who even could think that it's a good idea? OMG!

    dev versions can be downloaded from the desktop team blog, here's the latest one: http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2015/03/sidebar-extensions-speed-dial-syncing-customizable-shortcuts-opera-developer-29/
    The new speed dial in the dev version allows you to customize the thumbnail from the heart menu (so you can choose a full website screenshot, the coast style text based tile etc... for each dial, like you can already do with the bookmarks manager thumbnails)
    Here's some examples: http://imgur.com/a/kIwnK
    I think the new sd is coming along nicely

    But it's not showing the website's favicon like it used to, and where's the nice sidebar? This WebUI bar at the bottom is an abomination.

    It never occurred to me to take a screenshot of the speed dial, but I mean if you were to add 9Gag to your speed dial, it wouldn't show a screenshot, and it wouldn't show text, it would show a nice square icon, with the 9Gag logo on it.

    The way these tiles are formatted now is like the stash/bookmarks. Which reminds me, it was interesting that Opera didn't have a proper bookmark feature since 12.xx

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