<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I used to love Opera browser/s, but I haven't used them in a long time.</p>
<p dir="auto">so when I read about Opera "Air" I was like this could the reason I go back to using it.</p>
<p dir="auto">when I 1st downloaded and installed it, I was mesmerized by it beauty and design!<br />
i was like that looks pretty good,<br />
and with brain boosting music, I was like, Nice!</p>
<p dir="auto">but under that beautiful exterior, it was awful!</p>
<p dir="auto">the thing that pissed me off the most was not being able to properly utilize chrome/chromium extensions<br />
most extensions I wanted to use weren't functioning properly,</p>
<p dir="auto">I tried chrome store alternatives extensions, most of them had the same problems, I even created my own extensions to see what's wrong, they worked on chrome just like other extensions</p>
<p dir="auto">but it seems that Opera was preventing those extensions from working<br />
only extensions from the opera store would work<br />
and that store barely has any useful extensions</p>
<p dir="auto">so I result I had the following problems:</p>
<ol>
<li>
<p dir="auto">I couldn't open tabs next to the current ones,<br />
new tabs always open at the end of the tab bar.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p dir="auto">there's no good opera extensions to duplicate tabs, that have keyboard shortcut features which means<br />
we can't use keyboard shortcuts to duplicate tabs so we can overcome the new tabs problem!</p>
</li>
<li>
<p dir="auto">tab islands feature isn't available and we can't create tab groups!<br />
the opera extension isn't good enough!</p>
</li>
<li>
<p dir="auto">vertical tabs extension is a joke so we can't really say we have vertical tabs!</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p dir="auto">the things is, if you want to create an<br />
eye catching almost-useless browser, be my guess but don't prevent us from making it better or at least functional</p>
<p dir="auto">it's like having a nice house, but with many of the essentials not being there and with NO WAY of bringing stuff from outside!</p>
<p dir="auto">if those things aren't available because it's "in Beta"<br />
then why put chains on it?!<br />
and if you did those things to make things "better"<br />
or to make us "more productive"<br />
then you couldn't be more wrong!</p>
<p dir="auto">Mozilla's Firefox doesn't support chromium extensions, but at least the alternatives are there!</p>
<p dir="auto">speaking of which I'm going back to Zen browser</p>
<p dir="auto">let me know when opera Air isn't full of hot air!</p>
<p dir="auto">until we rant again!<br />
Salim.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forums.opera.com/topic/85188/opera-air-is-beauty-but-i-have-some-issues-with-it</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 08:44:28 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forums.opera.com/topic/85188.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2025 11:36:52 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it on Mon, 04 Aug 2025 07:07:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Dear <a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/980495">@salimalbitar</a></p>
<p dir="auto">Thank you for your patience. Please find our answer below. It’s a short summary after longer investigation and conversations with the team.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Tab Islands / Tab groups</strong><br />
We decided TI, in its current shape, doesn't fit AIR’s vision and is not aligned with UI. Therefore, it remains disabled to avoid unexpected experiences. We plan to adjust it in future and enable it in AIR, but currently it’s not our priority.<br />
While doing the investigation for you, we were also searching for a solid workaround within the code but didn’t find anything of enough quality.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Extensions from chrome: store</strong><br />
Opera is not Chrome and vice versa. They're specific features that are not available in other browsers. There is a reason for it, and it impacts many things. That’s we have a dedicated store for extensions, which is maintained by a dedicated team. It’s still possible to install many of the chrome extensions outside the store, but we can’t guarantee their functionality.</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>Vertical tabs</strong><br />
This is an old topic among Opera users, but the answer remains the same. There are currently no plans of supporting such functionality in any Opera.<br />
The vertical tab extension you mentioned from <a href="http://Addons.opera.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">Addons.opera.com</a> is something made by an external user. It’s not our implementation, but was reviewed and accepted by us.</p>
<p dir="auto">Many thanks for all the in-depth questions, you seem to be a truly engaged Opera user. (edited)</p>
]]></description><link>https://forums.opera.com/post/390445</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forums.opera.com/post/390445</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mlipka]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2025 07:07:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it on Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:26:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Hey <a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/980495">@salimalbitar</a></p>
<p dir="auto">Don't worry, we still remember about you. Expect answers soon.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forums.opera.com/post/390122</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forums.opera.com/post/390122</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mlipka]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:26:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it on Wed, 30 Jul 2025 04:31:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/998924">@twisstedfr</a> said in <a href="/post/389385">Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">i feel you. in my case i just switched to normal opera, got rid of everything in the app thing sidebar except aria , decluttered the awful speed dial and went on to enjoy a little, i get you, this is beautiful but awful to use , im really hoping opera actually improves on this, then i might finally switch</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">man I'm glad I'm not alone.<br />
but it's been 2 month!<br />
and <a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/950956">@Mlipka</a> hasn't replied<br />
or anyone else from the team<br />
for that matter</p>
<p dir="auto">I'm afraid they'll ditch this cool browser to work on<br />
Opera Neon! <img src="https://forums.opera.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/1f622.png?v=f58hvca1lju" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-emoji-one emoji--crying_face" title=":crying_face:" alt="😢" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://forums.opera.com/post/390105</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forums.opera.com/post/390105</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[salimalbitar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2025 04:31:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it on Wed, 16 Jul 2025 08:02:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">i feel you. in my case i just switched to normal opera, got rid of everything in the app thing sidebar except aria , decluttered the awful speed dial and went on to enjoy a little, i get you, this is beautiful but awful to use , im really hoping opera actually improves on this, then i might finally switch</p>
]]></description><link>https://forums.opera.com/post/389385</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forums.opera.com/post/389385</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[twisstedfr]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2025 08:02:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it on Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:31:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/950956">@Mlipka</a> said in <a href="/post/387940">Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/980495">@salimalbitar</a> Wow! Thanks for all the details and such diligent investigation.<br />
I'll pass it to the team and investigate deeper. This might take some time, I will return once know more.</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">yeah, I did everything I can do from my part lol</p>
<p dir="auto">and I'll be patiently wait for your reply <img src="https://forums.opera.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/2764.png?v=f58hvca1lju" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-emoji-one emoji--red_heart" title=":red_heart:" alt="❤" />️<img src="https://forums.opera.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/1f64f.png?v=f58hvca1lju" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-emoji-one emoji--folded_hands" title=":folded_hands:" alt="🙏" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://forums.opera.com/post/388157</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forums.opera.com/post/388157</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[salimalbitar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:31:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it on Tue, 24 Jun 2025 06:48:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/980495">@salimalbitar</a> Wow! Thanks for all the details and such diligent investigation.<br />
I'll pass it to the team and investigate deeper. This might take some time, I will return once know more.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forums.opera.com/post/387940</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forums.opera.com/post/387940</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mlipka]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2025 06:48:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it on Fri, 20 Jun 2025 15:46:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<h2>and when I tried extensions to open tabs next to the current one instead of at the end of tabs bar i suffered  a similar fate:</h2>
<p dir="auto">I received a  "race condition" error which prevented tab from opening next to the current one</p>
<p dir="auto">i tried to find any wiggle room, but I couldn't</p>
<ul>
<li>I've already tried introducing a delay (setTimeout).</li>
<li>I've tried explicitly activating the tab (active: true).</li>
<li>There's no "force move" flag in the chrome.tabs.move API.</li>
<li>I cannot inject code directly into Opera's core browser process to disable its native tab placement.</li>
</ul>
<h2>as for the tab duplication extension:</h2>
<p dir="auto">there's a tab duplication extension in the store, but it doesn't have any shortcut keys<br />
(like other chromium extensions on the chrome store)</p>
<h2>but just to be sure, here are the extensions I've tried<br />
(and didn't work):</h2>
<ol>
<li>
<p dir="auto">always right:<br />
<a href="https://github.com/autonome/always-right" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://github.com/autonome/always-right</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p dir="auto">duplicate-tab:<br />
<a href="https://github.com/zertosh/duplicate-tab" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://github.com/zertosh/duplicate-tab</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p dir="auto">duplicate-tab:<br />
<a href="https://github.com/stefansundin/duplicate-tab" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://github.com/stefansundin/duplicate-tab</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p dir="auto">open-tabs-next-to-current<br />
<a href="https://github.com/sblask/webextension-open-tabs-next-to-current" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://github.com/sblask/webextension-open-tabs-next-to-current</a></p>
</li>
</ol>
<p dir="auto">alongside the extensions I created myself:<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Lz_L_Gmu2WGtRRrh2myVQhE-c_6C0p_I?usp=sharing" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Lz_L_Gmu2WGtRRrh2myVQhE-c_6C0p_I?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p dir="auto">I tried all the tabs above in other chromium based browsers, and they're working fine</p>
<p dir="auto">thank you again for the follow up and the work<br />
now and later on <img src="https://forums.opera.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/1f64f.png?v=f58hvca1lju" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-emoji-one emoji--folded_hands" title=":folded_hands:" alt="🙏" /></p>
<p dir="auto">and once Opera is ready to be used again<br />
(tab islands introduced and/or chromium extension are supported)<br />
I'll happily make the switch.</p>
<p dir="auto">P.S.<br />
try taking a few notes from sidekick browser<br />
(the adding tasks for example seems like a good idea to implement)</p>
]]></description><link>https://forums.opera.com/post/387709</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forums.opera.com/post/387709</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[salimalbitar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 15:46:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it on Fri, 20 Jun 2025 12:01:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/950956"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/950956">@Mlipka</a></a> said in <a href="/post/387421">Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Hi <a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/980495">@salimalbitar</a></p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks for taking the time and sharing your thoughts. We appreciate the feedback. We'll analyze it.</p>
<p dir="auto">In the meantime, can you share exactly which extensions work for Chrome but doesn't work for Opera? This way, we can investigate the root of the problem.</p>
<p dir="auto">Both browsers use chromium as their engine, and extensions from Google store should work exactly the same in both browsers.</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Hey <a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/950956"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/950956">@Mlipka</a></a><br />
thank you for your reply it shows that you guys care <img src="https://forums.opera.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/2764.png?v=f58hvca1lju" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-emoji-one emoji--red_heart" title=":red_heart:" alt="❤" />️<br />
this makes sure Opera Air doesn't suffer the same fate as Opera's crypto browser lol</p>
<p dir="auto">Can we assume that<br />
<strong>most chrome extensions don't work on Opera?</strong><br />
because it seems like Opera Air is<br />
<strong>restricting certain (most) Chromium APIs</strong>!</p>
<p dir="auto">at 1st I thought<br />
it just does not support the <strong>chrome.tabs.group API</strong><br />
because it may conflict with the tab island feature (that's not even introduced to Opera Air yet)<br />
(which doesn't make much sense, but ok..)</p>
<p dir="auto">but then I found out that the same problem is happening with other extensions as well</p>
<h2>here's why I think that Opera Air is restricting Chromium APIs:</h2>
<p dir="auto">since "Tab islands" are supported.. yet.<br />
(please add the feature to Opera Air soon)<br />
I was like it's ok.. I'll just use a tab grouping extension from the store<br />
but after all the tab grouping didn't work,<br />
I created my own extension to see what's wrong</p>
<p dir="auto">then I got this error</p>
<p dir="auto">Error creating group: Grouping is not supported by tabs in this window.<br />
Context<br />
background.js<br />
Stack Trace<br />
background.js:43 (anonymous function)<br />
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// Listen for when the extension icon is clicked<br />
chrome.action.onClicked.addListener((tab) =&gt; {<br />
// Get the current window's tabs<br />
chrome.tabs.query({ currentWindow: true }, (allTabs) =&gt; {<br />
if (chrome.runtime.lastError) {<br />
console.error("Error querying all tabs:", chrome.runtime.lastError.message);<br />
return;<br />
}</p>
<pre><code>// Find the active tab in the current window
const activeTab = allTabs.find(t =&gt; t.id === tab.id);

if (!activeTab) {
  console.error("Active tab not found.");
  return;
}

// Filter tabs that are to the right of the active tab
const tabsToGroupIds = allTabs
  .filter(t =&gt; t.index &gt; activeTab.index)
  .map(t =&gt; t.id);

if (tabsToGroupIds.length === 0) {
  // Notify the user that there are no tabs to group
  console.log("No tabs to the right to group.");
  chrome.notifications.create({
    type: 'basic',
    // iconUrl: 'icons/icon48.png', // Removed as icons are not provided
    title: 'Tab Grouper',
    message: 'No tabs to the right of the current tab to group.',
    priority: 0
  });
  return;
}

// Get the current group counter from storage
chrome.storage.local.get({ groupCounter: 0 }, (data) =&gt; {
  let groupCounter = data.groupCounter + 1;

  // Create a new tab group with these tabs
  chrome.tabs.group({ tabIds: tabsToGroupIds }, (groupId) =&gt; {
    if (chrome.runtime.lastError) {
      console.error("Error creating group:", chrome.runtime.lastError.message);
      return;
    }
</code></pre>
<h2>I was chatting with Manus AI about the tab grouping error I got and it told me that:</h2>
<p dir="auto">"This error message:<br />
"<strong>Error creating group: Grouping is not supported by tabs in this window.</strong>"<br />
is very specific and tells us exactly what the problem is.<br />
It means that the browser you are using (Opera Air, in this case) is explicitly reporting that it does not support the <strong>chrome.tabs.group API</strong> for extensions in the current window.<br />
While Opera browsers are built on Chromium (the same base as Chrome), they may choose to implement or <strong>restrict certain Chromium APIs</strong>.</p>
<p dir="auto">Opera's "Tab Islands" is a native, core feature of their browser, and it's highly likely that they have disabled or not implemented the standard Chrome Tab Grouping API for extensions to prevent conflicts or to maintain control over their own tab management system.</p>
<h2>What this error means for your extension:</h2>
<ul>
<li>The code itself is likely correct for a standard Chrome browser.<br />
*The limitation is with Opera Air.</li>
</ul>
<p dir="auto">The browser environment you're running the extension in is telling you that<br />
<strong>it doesn't allow extensions to create tab groups using this method."</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">and since I tried the extension on chrome:<br />
this confirms that:</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>The limitation is specifically with Opera Air's implementation of these APIs</strong></p>
]]></description><link>https://forums.opera.com/post/387701</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forums.opera.com/post/387701</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[salimalbitar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 12:01:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Opera Air is beauty but I have some issues with it on Mon, 16 Jun 2025 06:46:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Hi <a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://forums.opera.com/uid/980495">@salimalbitar</a></p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks for taking the time and sharing your thoughts. We appreciate the feedback. We'll analyze it.</p>
<p dir="auto">In the meantime, can you share exactly which extensions work for Chrome but doesn't work for Opera? This way, we can investigate the root of the problem.</p>
<p dir="auto">Both browsers use chromium as their engine, and extensions from Google store should work exactly the same in both browsers.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forums.opera.com/post/387421</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forums.opera.com/post/387421</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mlipka]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 06:46:54 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>