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Opera 12.17 and security protocol handling

  • Thank you both for taking the trouble to provide that explanation.

  • I'm no longer current on the crashing issue that Blackbird describes, since I was annoyed enough by it back then to ever try experimenting with those settings again (it sounds like Opera has since changed what they're pushing out), but I'm curious Blackbird, what browser do you use now more than Opera 12?

  • I have checked out the client test provided by Qualys SSL Labs at https://www.ssllabs.com/projects/index.html and find that Opera 12.17 is declared to have good protocol support and that the user agent is apparently not vulnerable to POODLE or FREAK.

    I no longer use Opera where secure privacy of data is necessary, e.g. online financial transactions but I am happy to continue its use for general web browsing. I have only found one site where Opera 12.17 outright won't work. It is The Guardian newspaper: https;//www.theguardian.com/uk

    If a site doesn't work, I give it a miss.

  • Drat! There's no edit feature. The Guardian URL has a typo.

  • ... I'm curious Blackbird, what browser do you use now more than Opera 12?

    It's shared between Vivaldi (which I've been trialing) and Firefox (default). I use Olde Opera now mainly to cross-check operation at sites that fail or work oddly on my other browsers, of which there are around 7 installed.

  • @hake, maybe it's a regional thing, but I don't have any problem with that site in 12.17. Maybe right-click the page, edit site prefs, and clear the cookies? I'm not even using any masking. Maybe things go wrong when you login (I don't have an account)?

    @blackbird, yes, I'm keeping an eye on Vivaldi too, though I think it's months away at least, so I'm continuing on with 12.17 for now since it's heavily customized and it would require a towering pile of extensions to create the equivalent in Firefox, which I also tend to keep open and use as a second browser for things that I know don't fly any longer in Ye Olde. (If I do switch to a Mozilla browser though, it'll likely be Cyberfox, a nice 64-bit superset of Firefox with fantastic user support.)

  • ...
    @blackbird, yes, I'm keeping an eye on Vivaldi too, though I think it's months away at least, so I'm continuing on with 12.17 for now since it's heavily customized and it would require a towering pile of extensions to create the equivalent in Firefox, which I also tend to keep open and use as a second browser for things that I know don't fly any longer in Ye Olde. ...

    It's taken me 11 extensions to get Firefox to look and behave roughly like I had Olde Opera set up (toolbars, bookmarking, etc, etc) - sigh! Vivaldi's second or third TechPreview#1 update did nearly all of that right out of the box with no extensions. It's still a work in progress, so I've kept it at the stand-alone install level thus far, just in case.

  • Opera 12.17 routinely loses TLS 1.1 and 1.2 even though update checking is now suppressed. The rationale behind such behaviour is bizarre. Was the person responsible for this behaviour under the influence of intoxicating substances? It really defies logic to default to the least recent security handling protocol.

    Why can't Opera correct this? It is objectionable to override a user's elected choice and mine is to enable all the TLS versions, permanently.

  • The Qualys SSL Labs client test says of Opera 12.17:-

    "Your user agent doesn't support TLS 1.2. You should upgrade.
    The protocols supported by your user agent are old and have known vulnerabilities. You should upgrade as soon as possible. The latest versions of Chrome, Firefox, and IE are all good choices. If you can't upgrade IE to version 11, we recommend that you try Chrome or Firefox on your platform."

    Why doesn't Opera correct this? There can be no justification for deliberately disabling TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 WITHOUT INFORMING THE USER.

  • Opera is pretty much useless now , no security protocols to handle any new sites update...just a big waste of time .
    No more menus , they are trying to kill opera and are doing a great job

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