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Jon von Tetzchner, Opera's founder and former CEO spoke to The Register

  • your hard-on for google is as undeniable as your selective reading. as to how i came to that conclusion, it was via google's quote, they said so (re-read it). i did state that they wanted other browsers dead. you deny this? you think google wants competition? and this from an opera employee. you sound more like a google employee. although, considering most of opera's browser coin comes from google anyway, it fits.

    i guess the most powerful companies in the world are registering these names for no real reason. apparently branding is meaningless in our culture. if the can doesn't say coke, people won't buy it, even if it contains coke.

  • Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    This forum isn't closing,

    How do I have to read this: "We have made decision to shutdown My Opera as of March 1, 2014."
    [found here: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/important-announcement-about-your-my-opera-account ]??

    Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    Vivaldi and DnD are not needed.

    That's interesting. Who else but me (and to some extent my wife) knows what I need??

  • Originally posted by alf5000:

    How do I have to read this: "We have made decision to shutdown My Opera as of March 1, 2014."

    Rafael is referring to this:

    What about the forums?
    Our forums will be moved to www.opera.com later. The most important threads will be moved there and you can still use your My Opera account to log in and continue the discussion. In other words: Your My Opera account is now your new Opera account that you can use for all Opera services and products.

    In a week or so we'll finally know what that means.

  • Originally posted by missingno:

    The interesting thing is: of the approximately 330 million Opera users about 300 million still use Opera 12.

    Very interesting indeed.

    I use 11. 😛

  • Originally posted by JoshL:

    Originally posted by missingno:

    The interesting thing is: of the approximately 330 million Opera users about 300 million still use Opera 12.

    Very interesting indeed.

    I use 11. 😛

    The interesting thing is how you post ignoring all the other posts in this topic.

    It was already clarified that there aren't 300 million Opera 12 users. Jon was referring to all Presto products including Opera Mini.
    The interesting thing is how Jon uses this numbers intending to convince us, *cof cof* fool us *cof*, that the switch to Blink was a mistake when there's no replacement product for Presto-Mini yet (the product with more users, only available in Presto-in-server form) and when we already know >50% of the desktop user base is now using Opera 15+.

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  • Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    Originally posted by JoshL:

    Originally posted by missingno:

    The interesting thing is: of the approximately 330 million Opera users about 300 million still use Opera 12.

    Very interesting indeed.

    I use 11. 😛

    The interesting thing is how you post ignoring all the other posts in this topic.

    It was already clarified that there aren't 300 million Opera 12 users. Jon was referring to all Presto products including Opera Mini.
    The interesting thing is how Jon uses this numbers intending to convince us, *cof cof* fool us *cof*, that the switch to Blink was a mistake when there's no replacement product for Presto-Mini yet (the product with more users, only available in Presto-in-server form) and when we already know >50% of the desktop user base is now using Opera 15+.

    its amazing only 50% use opera 15+ now, considering how the update unfolded. i was using presto, it said i had an update, i updated and ended up with 2 opera browsers: all i could think was, "what the hell happened?" this likely happened to most people who weren't impersed into the unfolding presto/webkit/blink crap. it seems to indicate that half of them disliked the newer opera, did some research (after the fact, like myself) and uninstalled opera 15+ to return to presto. the inbrowser update was never clear and simply stated there was an update. when there's an update, you update. 100% should be using opera 15+ considering how this transpired. even the update services indicated that we needed to update (i use 4 and they all told me to update).

  • Ah...two more days to Read Only. :p

  • Originally posted by biggerabalone:

    its amazing only 50% use opera 15+ now

    MORE THAN 50% (unspecified percentage/amount) of the desktop users use 15+

    Originally posted by biggerabalone:

    considering how the update unfolded

    No update unfolded, users aren't even being notified via auto-update.

    Originally posted by biggerabalone:

    i was using presto, it said i had an update, i updated and ended up with 2 opera browsers (...) the inbrowser update was never clear and simply stated there was an update. when there's an update, you update. 100% should be using opera 15+ considering how this transpired. even the update services indicated that we needed to update (i use 4 and they all told me to update).

    You'd be the first case of this happening that I know of. I doubt this occurrence completely.
    And what update service are you talking about? It's definitely not official.

    Originally posted by biggerabalone:

    it seems to indicate that half of them disliked the newer opera

    Nope, it indicates that less than half of users don't know about the new version OR prefer to stay with it for the time being.

  • rafaelluik - "MORE THAN 50% (unspecified percentage/amount) of the desktop users use 15+"

    ok, so 51% would accurately meet your statements qualifiers and quench your outrage. its your words, not mine.

    http://www.scip.ch/en/?vuldb.9746

    "Upgrading to version 15.0 eliminates this vulnerability. A possible mitigation has been published immediately after the disclosure of the vulnerability. The vulnerability is also documented in the vulnerability database at OSVDB (95633 ⇗)"

    this was picked up at the time by others recommending updating to 15.

    opera quickly patched this in 12.16 (although it says a "possible mitigation" ...) - but some advisories recommended updating to 15 before a fix for 12 was made.

    and i was informed of 15 in my 12 browser via a link. it did not auto update. when you see an higher version is out, you update presuming you are supposed too. as i said, various update checkers also identified the new opera version (such as sumo, filehippo, and surfpatrol). how opera handles updates (or informing of development) is not always clear, ex. when they made a regression so the new beta version was 12.10.1592 and no longer 12.50.1583.0 . or when you were directed to their page and see 15 and next (but you can still use 12 - if you search their blog). clear as mud.

  • leushino says: > Gotta love the IGNORE function. Appears the peanut gallery are enjoying their final days in the sun. I have this mental image of rabid dogs, frothing at the... (sigh). Sleep tight, Gentlemen. :whistle:

    Bored, bored, bored. Every time someone posts a criticism of Opera you come out with the same, tired old twaddle ("If you don't like it, don't use it" plus variants thereof).

    Unless you have something useful to say, please desist. In fact, I can't remember the last time you posted something helpful and constructive. Actually, have you ever?

    You are like a stuck record, and it really is time you gave us all a rest.

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