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YouTube rolled out 60 FPS videos, Opera cannot play them, even in 30 FPS

  • Is the playback broken with both flash and html5 player, and is there no difference with stable/beta/dev release?

  • Any example links?

  • For testing: Avatar 60 FPS

  • Plays fine in 12.17. Sure they will fix soon in newer versions

  • Funny,
    I was able to enjoy the Titanfall video in 60fps and 1080p with no issues with the 24 Version of Opera.
    Since then I have not updated my flash player or anything else.

    But it is rather strange that some other videos are not loading at all
    http://youtu.be/Wy2H1yxvO7Y

    Bohemian Eagle 60FPS Hi-Res Test, with some troublesome encoding for everything except Chrome and Safari apparently.

    May it have anything to-do with the HTML5 Version of YouTube enabled?

    Opera Version: 25.0.1614.50
    on Windows 7 64-bit

  • For testing: Avatar 60 FPS

    Couldn't load the video using the flash player. I've tried with the html5 one an it didn'tallow me to change to 720 or 1080 with 60fps, only regular 720p and 360p were available.

  • Try the link I have posted here.

  • Try the link I have posted here.

    That one plays fine here but it uses a different codec.

  • Try the link I have posted here.

    That one plays fine here but it uses a different codec.

    If I open that link, both HTML5 player and flash player have the 60fps option which is 720p or 1080p.

  • Have to join here again.
    Something changed since yesterday. As I can watch all of the aforementioned videos. BUT if I look at the "stats for nerds" - all of these videos scrape at the 30fps mark.
    No mention of being displayed in 60fps or anyhting else.

  •   Try the link I have posted here.
        
    
    That one plays fine here but it uses a different codec.
    

    If I open that link, both HTML5 player and flash player have the 60fps option which is 720p or 1080p.

    Yes, because it use a different codec as i said.

  • Some videos on YouTube do work in 108060fps with Opera but apparently only those which are available as webm/vp9. Those who use h.264 are only available in 360p30fps and 720p30fps. If you go to this site: https://www.youtube.com/html5 you will see that h.264 DOES work in HTML5 via the system libraries but it does NOT work with Media Source Extensions which seem to be a requirement for YouTube's DASH player and apparently 1080p and 60fps.
    I don't know if this is possible (due to licensing problems) but I hope the Opera team is working on MSE support with h.264 because this is something that could seriously make me switch my browser for the first time in ages. As it stands I see no other way to watch YouTube in 1080p than to use a different browser, use Flash or wait for YouTube to process the video to vp9 which might take ages. 60fps only works if I wait for vp9 too or by using a different browser. It would be nice for the Opera team to make some statement about this because if they don't or can't do anything about it I might as well switch to Chrome now.

  • hah, now I see...
    I can watch Avatar video in 60 fps, but video I uploaded (720p@60fps) is in H264/mkv, and is played 30 fps (or even less). html5 player

  • @slin3 Sums up the situation nicely. Firstly, this has nothing to do with Flash. The problem is only with 60 FPS HTML5 videos encoded with H.264, since MSE is used and Opera for Windows and Mac do not currently support MSE in combination with H.264 videos.

    It is worth noting that many popular videos are later transcoded to WebM/VP9, which do work in Opera, even at 60 FPS. This is why people are getting mixed results. If someone links a video and says it doesn't work, some time later another Opera user may come back and find it does work as a WebM version is then available.

    P.S. As a side note, Opera Linux users with a system-provided FFmpeg with H.264 support compiled in will see all videos. The reason for this is that on all three platforms we use the OS to decode H.264.

  • quote of ruario

    P.S. As a side note, Opera Linux users with a system-provided FFmpeg with H.264 support compiled in will see all videos. The reason for this is that on all three platforms we use the OS to decode H.264.

    So I get this right, that we normally would be able to few all kinds of 60fps videos as long as we could view them by other video tools as the OS is used to decode the codec.
    BUT we can not view H.264 in combination with MSE (which is city code on license plates here) as Opera does not support the MSE part.

    May someone tell me what MSE stands for in this case?
    And Opera is about to encorporate this MSE & H.264 'thingy', in the next couple big updates?

  • MSE = MicroSoft Encoder, if I'm not mistaken.

  • Actually, it's Media Source Extension... :doh: ^^

  • Oops!!!, I guess I am mistaken. :doh:

  • I was ready to give up Chrome for Opera or Safari.
    But safari a trouble with Adblock and very huge memory link screwing the computer.

    but Opera has problem with h264 video.

    Google are ***** who want to push VP9, when its it not possible to have smooth video in 1080p without burning the computer or having a very powerful computer (core i5 @ 2.53 ghz, dualcore is not enough...) because this shitty codec is not supported for hardware acceleration.

    My conclusion is the following. There is a stupid war open source vs the proprietary. Some companies/ only accept open source, even if the open source equivalent does not exists or is big crap. Apparently, it in some people's mind, it is not possible to use and support open source by using proprietary stuff at the same time, at least by the time the open source equivalent is good enough. Who are the victims? US, USERS are VICTIMS in this stupid war.
    What if I told you I can support H.264 now because the VP9 need to much power for HD video and support VP9 when it will be supported by GPU, and use it only for non HD video for now?

  • Any updates on this i really wany 60fps playback on opera.

    Chrome and firefox both have this feature. Firefox is currently in nighly but at least its up and coming feature.

    Not even opera dev has this feature yet....

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