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12.15 forces Google as search engine

  • Originally posted by stepanstas:

    In terms of my conclusions, Opera is in love with Google. There is a reason why it defaults to Google. And it continues to override settings in the mobile App which is what I was referring to.

    Except Opera defaults to other engines in other countries, such as Yandex in Russia.

    Google and Yandex are enemies and at war over the Eastern European search market, and yet Opera ships with Yandex as the default search engine over there.

    And yet Opera loves Google?

    Your inane claims are getting more and more silly by the second.

  • Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    I did it first! 383945 < 384117 < 384235. I'm winning!
    Let's see if someone beats me. haha

    There is no point doing that, one bug report is enough. Duplicates just waste the developers time.
    What should be done is whoever reports the bug first then posts the bug number (minus the @xxxxxxxxx.) in the relevant thread. That way everyone else knows the bug has-been reported and no one else wastes the developers time with unnecessary duplicates.

  • Originally posted by Chirpie:

    Except Opera defaults to other engines in other countries, such as Yandex in Russia.

    Google and Yandex are enemies and at war over the Eastern European search market, and yet Opera ships with Yandex as the default search engine over there.

    And yet Opera loves Google?

    Your inane claims are getting more and more silly by the second.

    Thats because Opera has a deal with Yandex in Russia and Google in the US.

  • Originally posted by stepanstas:

    Originally posted by Chirpie:

    Except Opera defaults to other engines in other countries, such as Yandex in Russia.

    Google and Yandex are enemies and at war over the Eastern European search market, and yet Opera ships with Yandex as the default search engine over there.

    And yet Opera loves Google?

    Your inane claims are getting more and more silly by the second.

    Thats because Opera has a deal with Yandex in Russia and Google in the US.

    Exactly. Which is why comments like "Opera is in love with Google. There is a reason why it defaults to Google." are insanely stupid.

  • Sorry for my interruption. Instead of answering a moderator linked my thread over here and closed it. :down: And I confess to be to annoyed by this Opera-problem to read so much postings in foreign language. So please allow me this question:

    Are there already any solutions or at least workarounds?

  • Originally posted by a-zeller:

    Are there already any solutions or at least workarounds?

    Reverting to 12.14 as mentioned in the OP.

  • Good to see this is a known problem. I already reinstalled opera for this issue but will go back to a previous version now. I find it bloody annoying to have Google as default. (preferring Startpage as my default)

  • I have upgraded from Opera 12.14 to the 12.15, but it doesn't seem to have this issue for me.

  • I discovered that ixquick.com is not overwritten - don't know why.

  • Going back to 12.14 here also. This is sick. If there will be no workaround Im going to firefox.
    By the way. There is an addon:

    https://addons.opera.com/pl/extensions/details/searchbox-toolbar-for-opera/?display=en
    which could possibly get rid of the problem, but:

    1. It is discontinued
    2. Somebody would have to write adding new search engine
    And this could be a solution/workaround.

  • Originally posted by lukaszpp:

    If there will be no workaround Im going to firefox.

    Try search keywords. It's more efficient regardless.

  • Originally posted by Luxor:

    Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    I did it first! 383945 < 384117 < 384235. I'm winning!
    Let's see if someone beats me. haha

    There is no point doing that, one bug report is enough. Duplicates just waste the developers time.

    Hey, if the developers won't waist time, they just should go OPEN bugtracker, like real software does. All Opera to blame.
    That nobody knows which bugreport is filled and which not wastes also time for user who report bugs.
    Many of us preach since years that the bugreport system is broken by design.
    YMMV

  • Originally posted by Schnellinger:

    Hey, if the developers won't waist time, they just should go OPEN bugtracker, like real software does. All Opera to blame.
    That nobody knows which bugreport is filled and which not wastes also time for user who report bugs.
    Many of us preach since years that the bugreport system is broken by design.
    YMMV

    That has nothing to do with a single user reporting the same bug multiple times. Which does waste their own time, causes confusion, and also wastes developers time checking every bug number against every bug reported, just to find out that were all the same damn bug. See the problem ?.

  • If you too are addicted to opera and search engines you can do something like this example for windows, for other os find the "hosts" file there "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_(file)".
    Put that at the end of "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts" :

    xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx google.com
    

    Replace "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" by an ip address to your favorite engine, if you don't know how to find and ip address from a server name you can use that online tool : http://www.webdnstools.com/dnstools/dns-lookup first tool on the left "Look up DNS Entries".
    You could also replace "google.com" by anything else that can be put as default like bing or ixquick.
    And put "google.com" or whatever you used as the server name in the url of the default search engine in your opera's settings.

  • Originally posted by sipertruk:

    xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx google.com
    

    Replace "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" by an ip address to your favorite engine

    :doh:

    1. That would break a large number of Google services, including those on non-Google sites that don't require a Google account (e.g. Recaptcha).

    2. It would be nonsensical anyway. Search query formats differ between engines. StartPage and Ixquick don't even use GET (like Google); they use POST.

  • Originally posted by Gingerbread-Man:

    StartPage and Ixquick don't even use GET (like Google); they use POST.

    Besides the point, but you can search Ixquick with GET. https://ixquick.com/do/search?query=test (of course that is still incompatible with Google's https://google.com?q=test)

  • Originally posted by Gingerbread-Man:

    Originally posted by sipertruk:

    xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx google.com
    

    Replace "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" by an ip address to your favorite engine

    :doh:

    1. That would break a large number of Google services, including those on non-Google sites that don't require a Google account (e.g. Recaptcha).

    2. It would be nonsensical anyway. Search query formats differ between engines. StartPage and Ixquick don't even use GET (like Google); they use POST.

    You failed to understand the post.
    I didn't say to use google.com in hosts at all cost.
    I didn't say to use the whole query from one server with another, just to replace the server name.
    Did you even read it beside what you quote ?
    The only nonsense is brought by the bug which allow only a few server names and forbid all others for the default engine.

  • Got the same problem as you guys.
    I have my own google search engine entry with my settings shortcut g, when i try to use startpage as default engine, on the next start of Opera appears a new entry wich is now default, named google with shortcut g and it sets my google entry to shortcut o. That is just weired.

  • I've found another temporary solution. Go to Menu->Appearance in the "Buttons" tab choose "Search" category, drag and drop "Startpage Search Engine" field on the Address Bar next to the address field. Now you have a startpage search field that won't be overwritten next time you start opera. It's not like searching directly in the address field, but it's something.

  • Originally posted by Osko:

    I've found another temporary solution. Go to Menu->Appearance in the "Buttons" tab choose "Search" category, drag and drop "Startpage Search Engine" field on the Address Bar next to the address field. Now you have a startpage search field that won't be overwritten next time you start opera. It's not like searching directly in the address field, but it's something.

    I don't know if I understood your way correctly but isn't it much easier to define a key for the startpage-search, i.g. "s"? Following this you type in the adressbar "s words to look up" to search with startpage "words to look up". That's the way I search in wikipedia, imdb or amazon directly form the adress bar since years. 😉

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