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New commenting mechanism on Opera blogs

  • @tullyn Hi, how would you propose to change the design to solve your confusion about Forums account vs Opera account? ...

    e.g. separate forum & account visually & textually to make it clear and recognizable. What it is not now. A switch button between both would already be a step forward. And it's not my confusion, by the way. cause I know partly enough. But others, see above, just not. Which is due to the bad design. Not thought through well enough.

    You're squirming around because it seems a bit, that the forum, which has been out of the way so far, has to be upgraded by force. Something like that will go wrong.
    You don't need a comprehensive text composer to increase the readability of the blog. It's more the little things that are missing.
    But if I have to go the detour via forum to attach screens or other pictures, then it becomes - sorry - a bit silly. So add the necessary changes to the blog in a meaningful way, then that fits. Everything else will go wrong.

  • Here we go, yesterday was an anomaly. These new forum-based comments here aren't as good as My Opera used to be (e.g., they require JS) but at least they work.
    2019-10-04 14_59_40-I enjoyed Minit because it respects my damn time _ PC Gamer

  • @andrew84
    Hi, I have just updated Edit Profile page to include a short explanation and a link to the place where you can change email/password:

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    Thanks for reporting that and hope this helps.

  • Also, to make the Blogs <-> Forums jumping a little less frustrating, we have added a permalink to each comment. To open Forums now you can click on the post relative timestamp that's next to the username (e.g. 15 minutes ago). This will take you to the exact same post on forums.opera.com 🙂

  • @amatczak: Thank you for these changes, I also noticed that comments text size looks a way better now in the blog.

    *Maybe forum's comment should also have some 'view in blog' option to jump.

    And maybe there should be some more informative thing in the blog. Some clickable icon (small arrow for example) next to timestamp with 'view on forum' tooltip, or an extra 'View forum' button at the comment's bottom next to 'Reply' and 'Quote' buttons.
    It's hard to guess without an additional info that I can click the timestamp to visit forum.

  • @amatczak: ist there a way to edit or change my user name?

  • @ockendorf Not possible as far as I know.

  • @leocg: Thanks, can`t find a way...but maybe the Dev's can make it possible 😉

  • @ockendorf I don't think they should do it.

  • @ockendorf 👋

    Forums are tightly integrated with your Opera account. Therefore the username/email/password is always taken from your Opera account and cannot be changed directly on Forums. Due to technical reasons once you choose the username when creating your Opera account, this username cannot be changed. If you really want, you can always create a new Opera account using different username.

  • @amatczak: Thanks for the reply...maybe I'll create a new account

  • This comment system is horrendous. Disqus was at least an omnipresent/everywhere type of commenting system where i could partake in discussions straight from the Disqus app on Windows.

    This is a step backwards. There is no uniformity, there is no tree view on the actual blog and seemingly no upvotes/downvotes capabilities unless I go to the forums. Forcing users yet again Opera?

    This switch in my estimation was a very very unintelligent move... yet again same people made Opera into the UI freakfest it is now so not very surprising.

  • @artexjay said:

    This comment system is horrendous. Disqus was at least an omnipresent/everywhere type of commenting system where i could partake in discussions straight from the Disqus app on Windows.

    This is a step backwards. There is no uniformity, there is no tree view on the actual blog and seemingly no upvotes/downvotes capabilities unless I go to the forums. Forcing users yet again Opera?

    This switch in my estimation was a very very unintelligent move... yet again same people made Opera into the UI freakfest it is now so not very surprising.

    In addition to that there is no way from what i can see to edit a post again unless i head to the forums. As well as I've noticed that this comment system does not support adding images natively thus relying on 3rd party image sharing sites like imgur. On top of that there is the stupidest cap that unless you reach a certain reputation rank you cannot, comment often or even downvote/upvote?

    I know Opera is obsessive with restricting it's users similar to how China likes censoring but come on. Your browser is restrictive and your forums too?

  • @amatczak,
    a jump blog-forum works. Back (here, used: firefox 60.9esr) not.
    If, then it would make sense in both directions.

  • @artexjay said in New commenting mechanism on Opera blogs:

    This comment system is horrendous. (...)

    Yes! at least in the currently available form. 😒

  • since editing option has expired, another post:
    Just logged in via account, then the option appears that you can participate in forum. If you click on it, you are in the forum - not (!) logged in. And you have to log in again or rather confirm your login with 4-5 clicks. Not very user-friendly and very impractical.

  • @aphaltgrau What would be the reason someone would want to jump back to the same comment from forums to blogs? If you want to see the blog post then the first comment on the thread always includes the link to it. I don't see any other reason anyone would want to do it.

  • Restricting edits to 30 minutes is a practical solution to prevent spam. There is a common pattern where a spammer makes a reasonable and seemingly on-point comment that obviously gets approved by moderation. Few days/weeks later he edits it to include a spammy link in hope it will fly under the radar. That's something I've actually seen being done in our Disqus-based comments, BTW.

    Same reason is behind first-post-needs-approval and cannot post more often than X minutes at first.

    And yes, you can upload images directly here. You don't need to use any third party service.

  • @aphaltgrau That's a regression bug. It used to get you automatically logged in to Forums when you click that button. Thanks for reporting - we will fix that.

  • @amatczak: I'm sorry, could you just say a few words, why did you give up the Disqus commenting system?

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