Can't set custom search engine as default
manuel2019 last edited by
@leocg Maybe it's time to start an agreement with them.
Opera is advertising their web-browser using quite some privacy buzzwords. Consequently 'Startpage.com' should be in the boat as well. All other search engine providers are US based and prone to unlawful access by whatever party, either it is other business entities or governmental overreach.
But maybe Opera is already sitting too close to the US anyways, that train might be gone.
International data transfers
When we do collect personal data, such personal data may be transferred to partners in countries outside of the European Economic Area with a lower level of data protection than that provided for under European law. Whenever we do so, we require that our partners agree to the European Union’s model contracts for the transfer of personal data to third countries (also known as the “standard contractual clauses”) to ensure adequate protection of your personal data. ... https://www.opera.com/de/privacy
All players on the market are telling about their endless efforts (Uh, am I already seeing the sweat in their faces?) protecting your data. Unfortunately they are doing that by just relying on formal agreements. The best way to protect data is not collecting any in the first place. Constant pseudonymised (not anonymized, that's a huge difference) collected telemetry and measurements to make my experience with product XYZ better? F*** ***
No web-browser product on earth is giving back that freedom. It's quite sad. I have to admit, that I was hoping using Opera makes a difference (by design). Well, I got fooled, again.
Sorry for derailing the topic. Switching back to Chromium for now, since the accidental use of an unwanted search engine is quite a show stopper for me.
Tcll last edited by Tcll
@manuel2019 go a little easier on us please, I know my country sucks and is full of bad practice, but we still have some good guys over here
also, I trust Opera isn't using my data inappropriately unlike Google and them
(I use a number of machines and have my data synced across them)
but to add to your bit, there's a ton of companies like Apple and Facebook who say "oh we protect your data" and then turn around and sell it for advertising, lying straight to your face.
heck Nimses is a social platform that advertises selling your data for cryptocurrency
manuel2019 last edited by
@Tcll It's not about you people, not entirely.
It's more about the thinking, that only the US can host valuable internet services. 'Slack' has started in Canada and I liked it, just because of that. Then they moved to San Francisco. That's an example how US focused everything is. And all that despite the Snowden-Revelations, the actual ruling US government, the "America First" attitude along the "we rule the world" mindset.
And we, the casual (international) users, are supporting 'them' by using 'their' tools with no chance to escape, except the final option to reject those technologies as a whole. It's frustrating.
Why they go to the US? Because there's no protection (of the users). It's the country, where people get fucked every day and they think it's normal. Just take the phone call scam schemes as an example. Here in Germany this phenomenon is practically non-existent. Why? Because we have regulations in place ... against the interests of commercial entities. Is that good or bad? It depends who you ask ofc.
If you want to know, where the possibilities rich big data processing goes in the future, check China today. The people are already happy (well, or unhappy) about their social scores Tencent (their Google/Amazon) calculates for them. Sorry, you hadn't enough 'likes' today, you can't take the train... try again tomorrow.
Am I somewhat pessimistic? Yes, I think so.
Tcll last edited by
@manuel2019 well said, and fully agreed, even I'm tired of the ignorant, social-media addicted society we live in today, even my own brother disappoints me... u.u
And yes while the EU has data regulation laws, it's a double-edged blade unfortunately...
just look at the bias youtube is going through these days.
Why can't we just have a world with sane people without all this corporate greed and corruption.
here's something that might be a bit of a shocker
I'm kept low and poor by the government, I can't get a job due to technicalities with my SSI or I get cut off entirely...
I just hate money and capitalism (good capitalism always turns bad) and can't wait till we have a society that's self-sustaining without money and control.
maybe then we'll start seeing stuff that actually respects people
anyways I think this has gone off topic long enough
all I'm asking for here is for Opera to allow methods for setting custom search engines as default across all platforms.
(malware threat aside, users SHOULD be given the option)
Tcll last edited by Tcll
@omendata actually it rather is, especially for the fact it's based on chromium
so just hit chromium and you'll hit Opera
(since Electron is the new ActiveX, this shouldn't be surprising)
however, this point of target (the thread topic) I highly doubt is any sort of concern, especially on Linux
compared to something like RATting a user with Opera on any OS
Tcll last edited by
@omendata the first section was in response to your:
opera is not a big target for malware writers???
that's where I had to redirect myself
All other browsers allow using custom search default as does Chrome so no opera is not chrome!
just because 1 small feature of Chromium is not allowed in Opera doesn't mean Opera is not Chromium
Opera is the ONLY secure version of Chromium, because as you can tell, the devs put in the extra effort to disable things that would otherwise be insecure in other browsers
on the topic of this thread however
Opera could simply encrypt the settings file with a non-exposed key and allow users to set custom search engines as default.
(Opera could simply decrypt the settings and re-encrypt them when updated)
doesn't take a genius to figure that out
... what, suggesting a basic security feature doesn't make me a genius.
what does make me a genius however is knowing not to use a backdoored encryption standard.
thanks to my stupid government backdooring secure encryption standards, we have to be aware of this now and find new actually secure standards
(it's a binary outcome, knowledgeable hackers can either enter that backdoor, or there's no backdoor for them to enter)
sgunhouse Moderator last edited by
His argument is that malware targeting Chromium (which is the most common browser today) will mostly target Opera as well. If Opera didn't prevent external software from changing the search engine then any adware that would change your search in Chromium would also change it in Opera
xendi last edited by
What the.. I'm using DuckDuckGo as default and Opera is passing my search queries as GET requests in the address bar. This is not privacy! So I install my usual DuckDuckGo POST chrome extension but turns out it doesn't work in Opera (Though it will install). So I investigate why.
I go to my search settings and wow! Awesome! Opera has added custom search engine feature with POST request! Except you can't set custom search engine as default so guess what? I will never get to actually use it! What to do? Well, DuckDuckGo POST sets keyword as duckduckgo.com_. I could set that but no use if I can't set as default.
This is epic fail Opera. You pass my search queries by GET request straight to my ISP. No search privacy in this browser.