<![CDATA[Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing?]]>Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/topic/32754/will-opera-be-nixing-certain-adblockers-like-google-chrome-will-be-doingRSS for NodeTue, 14 Jul 2026 01:57:28 GMTThu, 30 May 2019 20:55:00 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Sun, 03 Nov 2019 19:57:37 GMT]]>The "moment of truth" will probably start to appear in 2020 as manifest V3 goes "live" in Chrome generic distribution. Then we'll start to see whether/if the ripples spread into non-Chrome chromium (and thereafter potentially impact other chromium-based browsers).

Per https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/google-begins-testing-extension-manifest-v3-in-chrome-canary/ , 1 November 2019: "While they are now in preview, Google expects the manifest v3 to go live in 2020 with the v2 end of life to be determined in the future."

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/187578https://forums.opera.com/post/187578Sun, 03 Nov 2019 19:57:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Sun, 03 Nov 2019 16:22:21 GMT]]>We are almost there...
https://old.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/dqjugc/google_begins_testing_extension_manifest_v3_in/

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/187559https://forums.opera.com/post/187559Sun, 03 Nov 2019 16:22:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Sat, 12 Oct 2019 11:21:57 GMT]]>The time has come!
https://www.ghacks.net/2019/10/12/the-end-of-ublock-origin-for-google-chrome/

The development version of ubo was rejected from the chrome store.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/184606https://forums.opera.com/post/184606Sat, 12 Oct 2019 11:21:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:16:37 GMT]]>@jimunderscorep

I'm not having any issues on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. There again, it is pretty stable.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173531https://forums.opera.com/post/173531Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:16:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:06:56 GMT]]>Debian testing x64... for the last 11.5 years.
The issue on firefox's ublock just comes and goes. It has been there before ff quantum, before ff adopted multi process and so on.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173529https://forums.opera.com/post/173529Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:06:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 14:04:14 GMT]]>@jimunderscorep said in Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing?:

I do not have many extensions either, just ubo and downloadhelper.

What is your OS?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173504https://forums.opera.com/post/173504Fri, 14 Jun 2019 14:04:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:24:02 GMT]]>I do not have many extensions either, just ubo and downloadhelper.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173486https://forums.opera.com/post/173486Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:24:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:38:27 GMT]]>@jimunderscorep
I've never had any issues with uBO and Firefox. I don't have many extensions on Firefox. Maybe you are having some conflict with another extension?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173480https://forums.opera.com/post/173480Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:38:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 04:17:49 GMT]]>@daveski17 + @yanta
Well... ubo is malfunctioning on my firefox for several days each month, allowing may ads to pass through. But it never had an issue on my chromium and opera.
If the manifest v3 change will force me to change to a different browser, that will be firefox... or use dns blocking.
But I do not want to. So, that post from google gives me some hope, which may be false hope, but it is still some hope.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173462https://forums.opera.com/post/173462Fri, 14 Jun 2019 04:17:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 00:14:24 GMT]]>More Googleballs 😩

https://gizmodo.com/google-no-of-course-were-not-slowly-killing-ad-block-1835495590

“There’s been a lot of confusion and misconception around both the motivations and implications of this change, including speculation that these changes were designed to prevent or weaken ad blockers,” Google writes in a separate blog detailing the differences between the two APIs. “This is absolutely not the goal. In fact, this change is meant to give developers a way to create safer and more performant ad blockers.” op cit

🤐

At least on the surface, this looks like a good thing. But there are a few niggling details that call that into question. Back in January, the Register reported that Adblock Plus and similar plugins relying on basic filtering would still be able to function, while more sophisticated ones like uBlock Origin and uMatrix would be completely borked. The site also noted that well, Google had conveniently paid Adblock Plus to let their own ads pass unblocked in the software. In a statement, Ghostery, another popular adblocker, pointed out the Declarative Net Request API was limited, and that it wouldn’t be possible to “modify or kill potentially dangerous or privacy-invading requests.” op cit

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173453https://forums.opera.com/post/173453Fri, 14 Jun 2019 00:14:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:20:52 GMT]]>@yanta said in Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing?:

@jimunderscorep

Ad blocker developers and filter list authors had demanded 300,000 elements per extension. For users combining multiple lists, 150,000 elements might not be enough.

To me, this blog post looks like an attempt at appeasement and justification.

Yes, that's exactly what I thought.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173394https://forums.opera.com/post/173394Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:20:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:38:33 GMT]]>@jimunderscorep

Ad blocker developers and filter list authors had demanded 300,000 elements per extension. For users combining multiple lists, 150,000 elements might not be enough.

To me, this blog post looks like an attempt at appeasement and justification.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173374https://forums.opera.com/post/173374Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:38:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:17:43 GMT]]>Dude, you're not falling for that, right?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173365https://forums.opera.com/post/173365Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:17:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Thu, 13 Jun 2019 11:54:42 GMT]]>Good news everyone!

Additionally, we are currently planning to change the rule limit from maximum of 30k rules per extension to a global maximum of 150k rules.

https://blog.chromium.org/2019/06/web-request-and-declarative-net-request.html

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173335https://forums.opera.com/post/173335Thu, 13 Jun 2019 11:54:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:35:23 GMT]]>@skyrim2011 Bring back Presto I say lol.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173113https://forums.opera.com/post/173113Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:35:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:17:17 GMT]]>@daveski17

This is what happens if there is only one API from a company with market dominance.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173110https://forums.opera.com/post/173110Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:17:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:13:53 GMT]]>@leocg said in Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing?:

@daveski17 There is already a public version of Chrome/Chromium with the change?

All I know is that Google have backtracked and now claim the API change won't affect the adblocking functionality in enterprise versions.

https://9to5google.com/2019/05/29/chrome-ad-blocking-enterprise-manifest-v3/

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173109https://forums.opera.com/post/173109Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:13:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:03:35 GMT]]>@daveski17 There is already a public version of Chrome/Chromium with the change?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173106https://forums.opera.com/post/173106Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:03:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:58:51 GMT]]>@thisisausername

Well, if it works well, I don't mind.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173105https://forums.opera.com/post/173105Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:58:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:55:04 GMT]]>@blackbird71

Excellently stated.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173103https://forums.opera.com/post/173103Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:55:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:37:56 GMT]]>@leocg said in Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing?:

@skyrim2011 I still think that everything will depend on how difficult and how costly will be to avoid the changes in Chromium.

Well, considering that the enterprise version of Chrome isn't affected by this, how exactly are you making this corollary?

I'm no software engineer but I wouldn't have thought it would be prohibitively expensive in keeping the webRequest API and not replacing it with the declarativeNetRequest API.

I guess that's what's happening with the enterprise version of Chrome.

But as I stated, I'm no software engineer.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173100https://forums.opera.com/post/173100Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:37:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:35:49 GMT]]>At this point in time, it's way too early to know how this will unfold for various browsers, Opera included. At least in part, that's because the final version of the new chromium API and any 'permanent' changes/deprecation of the old API have not been decided upon. Only then, and based upon that impact to browser coding, will it be possible to determine how the various browsers will be impacted. Those impacts will determine the economics or possibility of various browsers preserving existing ad-blocking capabilities or extension compatibility. Right now, it appears that everyone's at the mercy of how the chromium changes are actually implemented, and that's where the battle is being fought between app and chromium developers.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173085https://forums.opera.com/post/173085Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:35:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Will Opera be nixing certain adblockers like Google Chrome will be doing? on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 06:08:22 GMT]]>Pretty sure Opera will see this as their chance to push their inbuilt ad blocker and won't put much energy into restoring the old api.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/173076https://forums.opera.com/post/173076Tue, 11 Jun 2019 06:08:22 GMT