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Opera Forums Search Box Drop Down List

  • @leocg Many times since April when I posted it!

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  • @sharkyca So i guess I can assume that you already know the answer for your question.

  • @sharkyca I was looking into this issue quite extensively. Sorry, but I cannot reproduce it on any of my browsers and any of my devices, though. I honestly have no idea why some users have problem with that feature - and what's more confusing is the fact that even people in this thread have a hard time figuring out whether it works for them or not. For instance @mopw69 posts a video that is supposed to show the issue, but as far as I can tell it shows the opposite - that the search box works.

    So unless someone can provide a reliable way to reproduce this or figure out what all of the affected people have in common - I cannot spend more time chasing this.

  • @amatczak said in Opera Forums Search Box Drop Down List:

    @sharkyca I was looking into this issue quite extensively. Sorry, but I cannot reproduce it on any of my browsers and any of my devices, though. I honestly have no idea why some users have problem with that feature - and what's more confusing is the fact that even people in this thread have a hard time figuring out whether it works for them or not. For instance @mopw69 posts a video that is supposed to show the issue, but as far as I can tell it shows the opposite - that the search box works.

    So unless someone can provide a reliable way to reproduce this or figure out what all of the affected people have in common - I cannot spend more time chasing this.

    @amatczak I tried getting more info for you on this and duplicating the results on my end. Using 3 different browsers I was able to recreate the problem on MS Edge vers 44.18362.1.0, Chromium vers 75.0.3770.142 and Opera vers 62.0.3331.99.
    The real interesting part was when I turned on "screen recorder" from Windows accessories to record the problem it seemed to reset the browsers and the drop downs worked OK in ALL 3 BROWSERS, this leads me to suspect since they are ALL based on Chrome and I am running in a Windows 10 environment that it is more likely related to Windows than Opera! I am not a programmer but I do have a long history with computers going back to the days of IBM and mainframes, please give a quick look at the "screen clips" from Windows Recorder if you can! The shared links are here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y5y4ThPtJ1A9ANNUMsEB9f643q6xVwgC/view?usp=sharing
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/15CoTXuUxy802AamtCgm4oWHILsse0MRn/view?usp=sharing

  • @sharkyca OK, thanks. I did some more research using BrowserStack and indeed the problem seems to happen when I tried in Edge on Windows 10. It looks very weird, because clicking the same item sometimes does not work, and usually work when clicking it again. I also got more failures the quicker I clicked after the dropdown shows. Waiting a little bit between hovering and clicking the item usually made it work (though not always!).

    I will look on your recordings of course. But I'll be honest - the issue seems non-trivial to pinpoint and does not affect all users, so probably it won't be the top of our priority list 😞

  • @amatczak
    As said, initially I assumed it was solved, but later I discovered it wasn't. Sorry for the confusion.

    I just made a new video and you will see that sometimes picking a thread from the drop down search results works fine, but sometimes it doesn't, it is a bit 50/50.

    Obviously I have no idea why sometimes it doesn't work. Leave it to the website developers to figure out.
    Please give it some extra tries.
    Right now I use Google site search, site:forums.opera.com

    https://youtu.be/fs-0bwREM7k

  • @mopw69 Thanks for the new video. That is consistent with my latest experience via BrowserStack.
    Can you please tell me what OS and what browser(s) have you tried? @sharkyca suggests this might be specific to Windows.

  • @amatczak My default browser is Opera, but Chrome and Edge are also on my system. Edge I never use. Chrome, very occasionally at best.
    Opera version: 62.0.3331.99
    Windows 10 x64: 1809 (build 17763.529)
    Don't know whether it has something to do with cookies.

  • @sharkyca How do I open these screen clips? They look like a text documents with HTML in it, not videos.

  • @mopw69 If you have access to mac or linux machine somewhere, can you check if the issue is present there as well? I want to rule out that it depends on the particular user here on the forums. If you don't see a problem when on a different OS than Windows, then it would suggest that indeed this is OS-specific, not user-specific.

  • @amatczak The files open with Internet Explorer. They were created using "steps recorder" Windows 10
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/22878/windows-10-record-steps

    https://whatis.techtarget.com/fileformat/MHTML-MHTML-document-MIME
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    MHTML (short for MIME HTML) is a file extension for a Web page archive file format as saved by Internet Explorer. The archived Web page is an MHTML document. MHTML saves the Web page content and incorporates external resources, such as images, applets, Flash animations and so on, into HTML documents.

  • @amatczak Regretfully I don't have neither one of them on my system, so I can't test it.

    FWIW, I just gave it a try with a fairly clean Windows 10 x64 running in VMware Workstation. That Windows version is v903 (build 18362.267 - currently the latest one).
    Same problem.
    Enter any search string, scroll down in the drop down result list and pick anything from there. After 3 different search strings and three attempts, I didn't test it any further.

    I merely wanted to check whether it also happened with a later version of Windows.

  • @mopw69 @amatczak Sorry I was away from Opera for a bit, I see the problem still persists. Just an update on "My" browser and system I am using.
    Opera Version:62.0.3331.116
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  • @amatczak I also can confirm this glitch on my computer (Windows 7 32-bit, screen resolution 1024x600px, with both Opera v62.0.3331.116 stable and Firefox v68.0.2).

    Other forums that use NodeBB as forum software also seem to be affected by this issue, for example:


    Thread title: Search function of the forum


    Question by Franz47:

    There is such a question in the forum, only if I click on this result of the search function, it doesn't trigger anything. Is there a solution? I tried it with Firefox and Chrome, it doesn't work with both browsers.

    Answer by styroll (a highly respected member there):

    You probably mean the suggestions that appear directly below the search field. When I click on a suggestion, nothing happens (I can't remember that it ever worked).


  • @yanta Oh that's interesting. I was trying to reproduce this on official NodeBB community (if I succeeded that would be great because I would have a concrete evidence that this is not an issue with our Forums) but was not able to. I'll try again then.

    Can anyone of the affected people try to reproduce on https://community.nodebb.org?

  • @amatczak said in Opera Forums Search Box Drop Down List:

    Can anyone of the affected people try to reproduce on https://community.nodebb.org?

    Firefox 68.0.2 (without extensions) and Opera 62.0.3331.116 stable (only with Opera Ad Blocker as extension) on Windows 7 32-bit:

    Search terms used:

    • search field
    • search box
    • search plugin

    Result:

    • All attempts to access an entry from the dropdown hit list by clicking on it fail in the Opera forum.
    • In the NodeBB forum all attempts are successful.

    I noticed that you can only use the forum search in the NodeBB forum if you are logged in: As a guest you are redirected to the login page. Here in the Opera-Forum the search is also available for guests.

    The Opera-Forum has more than twice as many categories as the NoteBB-Forum, which may also require special character sets e.g. for some of our local subforums.

    By the way: Firefox displays an icon in the search box on both forums, Opera does not. If you click on it, the page https://forums.opera.com/search or https://community.nodebb.org/search will be opened:

    Search box icon.png

    FWIW: Firefox and Opera are installed as portable versions here. I could make them available on request, since I have no personal data stored (bookmarks, speed dials, passwords, history, etc.). This might make it possible to check whether the same installations that fail on my computer work as intended on another.

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