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[Solved]Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?

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    so if maxthon has no problem opening it
    what is operas problem here ?

    or are they just assuming i shouldnt use flash or shockwave anymore for some nefarious reason.

  • The site works in Chromium/Chrome?

  • @ceedee said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

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    so if maxthon has no problem opening it
    what is operas problem here ?

    or are they just assuming i shouldnt use flash or shockwave anymore for some nefarious reason.

    For me, the site works fine in IE and Edge (both of which, by design, can still render a shockwave/flash file)... the site instead results in a *.swf file download attempt in New Opera (chromium), Vivaldi, and Olde Opera (none of which are Flash-capable on this system). With Flash functionality being deprecated months ago in chromium (hence in Chrome, New Opera, and Vivaldi) and with Olde Opera unable to render it unless Flash is directly installed on the system and invoked by that browser, you have the explanation for what you're seeing. Given that Flash will cease to exist sometime around 2020, websites using it are employing nearly-obsolete (and historically insecure) technology.

  • @blackbird71 said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

    the site works fine in IE and Edge (both of which, by design, can still render a shockwave/flash file)

    That's the main problem right there. The site is trying to load the swf file directly (in an iframe). Chromium browsers don't have a handler for that situation. The site instead needs to embed the swf file with an embed element or an object element. Then it'll load in Opera and Chrome (after allow Flash for the site). However, even then when the Flash loads, none of the animation loads. So, there's something extra going on there too.

  • @burnout426 yes i know that but as other browsers have no problem with it I was just wondering what was operas problem. Having to have a standby browser is a bit irritating for something so trivial.

  • The site works in Chromium? What about in Chrome?

  • @leocg dunno about chrome dont use it
    but as maxthon provides the features opera doesnt
    its making me make a choice
    i like opera but its like a nice car that will only let you drive on certain roads and as such i prefer a crappier one that doesnt restrict me

  • Do you have Flash for Chromium based browsers installed?

  • @leocg Flash is installed and works ok with the sites other content. see the previous post by burnout maybe it is an iframe thing i dont know. All i know is it works fine in maxthon

  • Works fine here for me in Opera Version:57.0.3098.106 but I have the Flash for chromium installed for a while now so I'd say all you need to do is goto the Adobe flash website and download and install the latest version of flash for chromium browsers

  • @athlonite I have flash for chrome installed but the site just wants to download a .swf instead of opening it

  • @Ceedee

    Set opera://flags/#enable-ephemeral-flash-permission to disabled and relaunch Opera.

    Goto opera://settings/content/flash make sure "Allow sites to run Flash" is enabled and make sure "Ask first" is disabled. Then, make sure there's nothing in the allow/block lists.

    Also, make sure Opera's adblocker, VPN and Turbo are turned off.

    Also, make sure all your extensions are disabled (for this test at least).

    Then goto http://jc.osche.free.fr/flash/tinman-infinite-oz.htm.

    Does it work then?

    It's the "Allow sites to run Flash" without "asked" enabled that makes it work in Opera. The ephemeral option is just to stop Flash asking you each time and isn't really needed when ask is not enabled. The ephemeral flag is going in newer versions of Opera anyway.

    Having "asked" enabled and putting the site in the "Allow" list isn't enough to make it work. Ask has to be disabled. Note that in other Chromium browsers, you can't disable "ask" anymore (Opera added the option back in), so this will only work with Opera. Loading the source of https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/wiki/opera/extensions/always_activate_flash in chrome://extensions in Chrome makes the site work in Chrome though.

  • @burnout426 progress but not quite there yet
    it now loads i see a progress bar at bottom but it sticks at 90
    did both the settings tweaks you mentioned
    adblocker vpn and turbo disabled

  • @ceedee Hmm, it's loading all the way for me and I get to the background with the windmill etc.

  • @burnout426 Fixed it you are a star
    had to do one more step
    clear temp internet files
    now it works
    kudos burnout426 owe you buddy

  • @burnout426

    Typical opera just autoupdated and its broke again
    Im so fed up with this crap
    Opera portable still works though
    Ill just uninstall opera i think
    stick to the portable which doesnt update itself or alter things every 5 mins

    maybe a little explanation about me and why i am so anal about this issue and other "silly" things
    I suffered a couple of strokes about 5 years ago which left me severly memory disfunctanal and i rely heavily on things like opera to remember for me
    any changes and i freak out a bit
    a simple unwanted addition to my start page causes me anxiety and screws with me
    anyway just a explanation of why im like i am

  • @ceedee said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

    Typical opera just autoupdated and its broke again

    Hmm, my Opera updated to 57.0.3098.110 and the site is still working. I checked my settings and they're still the same.

    Did it turn "Ask" back on for Flash? Maybe try disabling "Allow sites to run Flash" and then enable it again. If "Ask" is still off, try turning it on and back off.

  • @burnout426 it does the loading to 90 thing
    but doesnt get past that I will try what you suggest and report back

    Something odd I have allow flash on
    ask first off
    disabled the ephemaral thing you said

    it puts a plugin blocked in the address bar everytime i go to tinman
    if i click that and select run this time it loads and sticks at 90

  • Chromium is in process of deprecating support for Flash and it will be more and more hard to play Flash content as time goes.

  • @ceedee said in Does this site work for anyone or is it just me it doesnt ?:

    it puts a plugin blocked in the address bar everytime i go to tinman

    Chromium (and therefore Opera) blocks small Flash elements on a page (less then 6 x 6 for Flash elements on the same domain). When this happens, you'll get that notification where you can temporarily allow it. But, a lot of times, the small Flash object being blocked is for an ad or something and not the main Flash object. You can try my Always Load Flash extension at https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/wiki/opera/extensions/always_activate_flash if you want, which will work around that and always load Flash.

    it does the loading to 90 thing

    Clearing the cache again fix it?

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