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  • Originally posted by devilzzz2012:

    MS

    Actually Apple.inc also supported that prism stuff.

    it mean all iproducts etc will trackable by NSA.
    only Linux that not show up on List.

    but, ChromeOS is Linux based OS.
    who knows... 👀

    Even NASA also migrate ISS OS from windows to Linux, arround when Google and NASA work together in "Quantum computing" projects.

    i know its hard to accept, but thats the truth.
    its not that easy to untracked by NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA or another Anti-Criminals Organisations, its Everywhere.

    it better to ignore it or doesnt know about it .
    lesser' we know, Happier we are .

    politics is sh***ts place rily, it better to do not trust every News on Media.
    some of political dudes will do everything to Downvote i/e current president, see why snowden not reveal that prism at G.Bush era.
    why he reveal it now when Obama is sit as US president.

    and such that S***ty things will repeated , in another president, and the other and ... and ... and
    with side effects its Blur the main vision of current projects.

  • Originally posted by sgunhouse:

    Chromium is open source, and not owned by Google. Chrome, the Google browser, has extra stuff added beyond the basic Chromium package. The only thing in Opera which could count as reporting to Google is the search suggestions, but you can change search engines if you're worried about that.

    But obviously we can't convince you. Believe what you will.

    This thing, the chrome clone, aka, Opera 15.0.1147.141*, calls home and if you don't let it transmit data to, sitecheck2.opera.com [91.203.99.43] port 80, it flat refuses to make any connections. BTW, not sure about that last number 3, it could be a 5, in the address as sometimes I can't read my own hand writing. Probably is a 5.
    You can, however, successfully block the auto update "feature."

    I've read the user/disclosure agreement and they "claim" an ID number is assigned, but that it is not done in a manner that would identify an individual user. If you believe that, have I a bridge, a national moment of sorts, I can let you have cheap.....

    *Opera 15.0.1147.141, running in Xp-sp3 inside of VirtualBox on Slackware64-current.

  • sitecheck.opera.com is for the fraud and malware check feature. Opera 12 and all versions with this feature calls that site.

  • Originally posted by LeoCG:

    sitecheck.opera.com is for the fraud and malware check feature. Opera 12 and all versions with this feature calls that site.

    Ah, but in Opera 12.x you can turn that so called "feature" off and the browser is still usable. If you block it with your firewall in Opera 12.x the browser is still usable.
    Turning off "fraud and malware check" in Opera 15 is not an option. If you block it with your firewall in Opera 15, the browser will not connect to the outside world. If it can be turned off in Opera 15, would you be kind enough to point out how it is done?
    Oh, and, BTW, "fraud and malware check" is just another method of tracking a user's activities.

  • Originally posted by leushino:

    Personally, I think you're all nuts... well... paranoid. If you think you can protect your privacy online, you're living in a dream world. :whistle:

    Big Brother loves you. Ha!
    Just as it is illegal to read someone's snail mail and stalk someone, so it should be on the Internet and it will have to come to that some day given the abuses we have already seen.
    How do you feel about the stores you visit tracking your movements in the store via your smart phone?

  • Shall we keep this Opera-related, guys? The other discussion would technically belong in Discussions and Debates, over in the Lounge forums.

  • Originally posted by sgunhouse:

    Shall we keep this Opera-related, guys? The other discussion would technically belong in Discussions and Debates, over in the Lounge forums.

    OK, then how do we turn off the tracking in Opera 15.xx?

    I just installed and ran Opera_15.0.1147.148 and it would not connect to the outside world unless I let it first connect to 91.203.49.68 or 72.21.215.232.

    Oh, BTW, I also cannot sign on here while using Opera 15, but have to use a different browser.

  • Originally posted by Guest703:

    You don't have to worry about Google tracking unless you're doing something illegal, and even then, they're not likely to do anything about it.

    The U.S. Supreme Court recently ruled that even one's silence can be used against one as "evidence of guilt". Not worry unless you're doing something illegal?? No, now everything is "evidence" against you: even NOT doing something illegal.Think of the scene in Little Big Man where Custer uses "logic" to prove that no matter what his scout said, Custer was able to twist it into meaning whatever he wanted.

  • Originally posted by LDMartin1959:

    Originally posted by Guest703:

    You don't have to worry about Google tracking unless you're doing something illegal, and even then, they're not likely to do anything about it.

    The U.S. Supreme Court recently ruled that even one's silence can be used against one as "evidence of guilt". Not worry unless you're doing something illegal?? No, now everything is "evidence" against you: even NOT doing something illegal.Think of the scene in Little Big Man where Custer uses "logic" to prove that no matter what his scout said, Custer was able to twist it into meaning whatever he wanted.

    Off topic, again, but if you are going to make statements like that your should understand the situation that lead to the decision,

    "...Because he was "free to leave at that time," [App.14], they did not give him Miranda warnings. The police then asked Salinas questions. And Salinas answered until the police asked him whether the shotgun from his home "would match the shells recovered at the scene of the murder [Id., at 17.] At that point Salinas fell silent..."

    http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=4301673:Topic:1611349

  • do you even realize if your ISP or your Country goverment can do the same? :left:
    face it, You have no privacy once you connect to the internet . 👀
    in this day, there is no way to untracked unless you make your own internet cable beside official World Wide cabels.


    another thing, why picking google? there are bunch USA companies that support that thing.

  • Originally posted by cwizard:

    Originally posted by LDMartin1959:

    Originally posted by Guest703:

    You don't have to worry about Google tracking unless you're doing something illegal, and even then, they're not likely to do anything about it.

    The U.S. Supreme Court recently ruled that even one's silence can be used against one as "evidence of guilt". Not worry unless you're doing something illegal?? No, now everything is "evidence" against you: even NOT doing something illegal.Think of the scene in Little Big Man where Custer uses "logic" to prove that no matter what his scout said, Custer was able to twist it into meaning whatever he wanted.

    Off topic, again, but if you are going to make statements like that your should understand the situation that lead to the decision,

    "...Because he was "free to leave at that time," [App.14], they did not give him Miranda warnings. The police then asked Salinas questions. And Salinas answered until the police asked him whether the shotgun from his home "would match the shells recovered at the scene of the murder [Id., at 17.] At that point Salinas fell silent..."

    http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=4301673:Topic:1611349

    My point is that the idea that if one is doing nothing illegal one has nothing to worry about is foolish, which is NOT off topic but a response to a statement that was made ON TOPIC.

  • Our lifes até tracked since the day we were born.

  • This topic is hilarious

  • Originally posted by Acryion:

    This topic is hilarious

    Indeed it is. :lol: Anyone who thinks he can be online in this day and age and avoid having his/her privacy compromised is living in the Twilight Zone. We are tracked in a multitude of ways and frankly... who cares? I think we've blown this way out of proportion. As I mentioned, I welcome being served ads that apply directly to me. Sure they want to sell me things. Why not? Do we honestly believe that this ride is for free? If we don't pay for the product, "we" are the product. It makes me laugh when I hear someone say that he won't use Google because he doesn't trust them. What does he think is happening to his privacy and identity when he uses a credit card? when he shows his license or enters his social security number on a job application? There is NO privacy anymore... period. Deal with it.:rolleyes:

  • Well, unless you have some serious bandwidth and CPU power, you can try setting up TOR and using that. But how paranoid can you get?

  • Sad, disturbing and frighting how willingly some people are to give up their privacy or, in this case, are they nothing more than shills for a questionable, at best, product?

  • I understand that one can attempt to "deal" with decreased security and also "resign" and do nothing. The latter is not dealing.

    A normal ISP would first have to become interested in what a customer is doing, because they used too much bandwidth, tried to disrupt the network, or a report about abuse was received. They have better things to do that add storage capacity or spend hours spying on everyone. The government can't be bothered to make agreements with small ISPs to get access to the data as they can from big businesses. The would rather make people "pliable" and have them trust their data to Google.

    As said above, one can use TOR to increse security, and also use simple encryption on their communication, which indeed can be broken, but, again, the attacking parties would first have a good reason to look into the matter. On Google and the other cloud services, all data is like an open book for the government. They own the data then, and you the user, can only plead for a slightly better privacy policy, and ask ask the govmn't to give some access back to your photos or whatnot. If everyone signed up and fully relied on google et al, the disturbing picture you are trying to convey, would have indeed be true, like a self fulfilling prophecy. Not because you connected to the internet, but because you believed that the goverment, the most powerful bully, can already see everything.

  • Originally posted by cwizard:

    Sad, disturbing and frighting how willingly some people are to give up their privacy or, in this case, are they nothing more than shills for a questionable, at best, product?

    LOL... you don't get it, do you. It's not a case of "giving up one's privacy" willingly. Your privacy is GONE... fffftttt! There is NOTHING you can do about it. If you think that extensions like Ghostery and Weboftrust and a host of other programs (and lame Do Not Track check lists) will preserve your privacy... Man, you're deluding yourself. We live in an insecure, very public world where privacy is no more. If you are that concerned, cut all your credit cards up, pull the plug on your computer, ask for your dental and medical documents (which you won't receive since they are not your property) etc etc and then realize something: you are STILL very well known and documented and tracked by companies and governments... period. Blaming Google is a joke. They're all compromising your privacy.

  • i would suggest Go agent / google agent if to improve more security.
    https://code.google.com/p/goagent/

    its free , but so does like another VPN / anonymity services. :left:
    they can see everything . 😃

    security with sacrificing privacy.
    sounds like a nice deal 😃

    oops did i say privacy?
    i forgot we have no privacy in internet ...

    MAHmahMAhMahMah

  • Originally posted by leushino:

    Originally posted by cwizard:

    Sad, disturbing and frighting how willingly some people are to give up their privacy or, in this case, are they nothing more than shills for a questionable, at best, product?

    ... They're all compromising your privacy.

    Ah, so that makes it alright for Opera to do the same? Are you an employee or share holder?
    You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but after over 1,300 posts you are starting to sound like a shill.

    shill (sh¹l) Slang. n. 1. One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle. --shill v. shilled, shill·ing, shills. --intr. 1. To act as a shill. --tr. 1. To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise). 2. To lure (a person) into a swindle.

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