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Major Privacy Problem

  • @burnout426
    Maybe just a bug of the UI, maybe a real problem !?

    Anyone can check the bug itself:
    Clean your Browser History and close Opera. Now restart Opera and visit some websites, such as a major online retailer, a well-known daily newspaper, and the page of a computer magazine (or something else)

    Now clear the browsing history (maximum privacy settings); now look at the settings under "Cookie Management", here you can see all the cookies and offline data you left while surfing,
    => press "delete everything" and "finish" and all entries will be deleted;
    Close the window of the "Cookie Management" and open it again immediately => and all entries are back ... and that is not acceptable.

    The only way to delete the entries is to close the browser => that is completely unnecessary and makes no sense.

  • I've just discovered that if you want privacy, Opera is not the browser for you.

  • If you want privacy, you use a private window.

  • @bitrat said in Major Privacy Problem:

    @burnout426
    Maybe just a bug of the UI, maybe a real problem !?

    Anyone can check the bug itself:
    Clean your Browser History and close Opera. Now restart Opera and visit some websites, such as a major online retailer, a well-known daily newspaper, and the page of a computer magazine (or something else)

    Now clear the browsing history (maximum privacy settings); now look at the settings under "Cookie Management", here you can see all the cookies and offline data you left while surfing,
    => press "delete everything" and "finish" and all entries will be deleted;
    Close the window of the "Cookie Management" and open it again immediately => and all entries are back ... and that is not acceptable.

    The only way to delete the entries is to close the browser => that is completely unnecessary and makes no sense.

    Yes I can confirm. To me, it's a bug that should be fixed.

  • I can confirm using Firefox, deleting browsing data doesn't remove all cookies either (I have found other browsers to behave the same). However when I manually removed them, they seemed to stay removed. Although manually removing worked, it is a huge faff and not something I would want to have to do every browsing session. @bitrat have you reported this to Opera? I don't think they read the Opera Forums.

  • @bitrat said in Major Privacy Problem:

    This is a problem when several people are working on a computer. If you forget to close the browser, the next one can see your browsing history (the entries), and that's a "no go"!

    If I get you correctly, you are saying unless you close the browser, your local cookie history would be available to anyone who knows where to find them? Is that the main point of your argument? Personally, not an issue for me as I always delete the data and close the browser after use. Also, what if someone closes the browser but forgets/doesn't know to clear the data? Local cookies would go (if selected in privacy options) but everything else would remain, including browser history. Personally I prefer the Firefox approach that allows all data to be automatically deleted when closing the browser as having to delete data every time before closing is quite annoying.

  • @cozza said in Major Privacy Problem:

    @bitrat said in Major Privacy Problem:

    This is a problem when several people are working on a computer. If you forget to close the browser, the next one can see your browsing history (the entries), and that's a "no go"!

    If I get you correctly, you are saying unless you close the browser, your local cookie history would be available to anyone who knows where to find them? Is that the main point of your argument? ...

    I think he's saying that the data details get deleted, but not the entry titles for each site visited, He wrote: "...If you do not close the browser, then all entries of the "Offline Data" and "Cookies" are retained. The data appears to be deleted, but not the entries. Everyone can then see which websites you have visited."

  • If you are sharing a computer with others without each one having its own user to access that computer then your privacy will always be zero.

  • @blackbird71 Eh? Looking at the cookies, local cookies are the only ones that remain after clearing data. They tell you the site visited and time visited. All other cookies are deleted. After browsing, simply pressing ctrl+shift+del (and deleting data) followed by ctrl+shift+x to close will get rid of all browsing data (and remember to sign out if on a shared PC). Whether it's a bug or not, it's still that simple to do and easy to remember. If cookies remained even after closing the browser, which they don't, then we'd have a major security flaw.

  • @Cozza
    Yes, I sent the bug to the Dev-Team.

    @leocg / @Cozza
    There are many situations in which you need to share a PC for Internet access, for example, if the network administrator does not allow freelancers to access the corporate network, or in a large family, or in a shared flat with only one PC. So there are so many such situations ... We can discuss that for an infinite amount of time, but that will not fix the bug.

    Why do the cookies and offline entries remain visible after deletion? I am not sure if this is just an error of the GUI, or if the data can still be found in a cache or a database, which can be read by a website !?

    A good browser also has to be fault-tolerant ...

    Thanks for your contributions.

    Thanks blackbird71 and burnout426, we are on the same track.
    Let's see what the Opera Dev-Team does.

  • Thought you all might like to know, I've recently been testing Opera Developer v50 and as far as I can see, ALL cookies are being deleted when either using 'Clear browsing data' or manually deleting them without needing to close the browser. Please run your own tests to confirm. Perhaps Opera took notice of the bug report (I sent one too).

  • Bugs DNAWIZ-22081 and DNAWIZ-21841 have been filed about this issue. They have not been resolved. However, I also tested in the latest Opera Developer (Opera 50) and I couldn't reproduce the problem. Can anyone else confirm that it doesn't have in Opera 50?

  • @cozza
    @burnout426

    I have just installed the latest beta version.
    In Opera DEV-BETA 50.0.2762.4 64-Bit the Bug is fixed.
    Let's hope that it stays that way in the stable version.

    Special thanks to the Opera DEV-TEAM,
    and thanks to all interested in the forum.

    BitRat

  • @bitrat

    Team should look @ this Also Example:

    Private window while Browsing https://forums.opera.com/ No lock engaged on dev 50 or 49 beta

    lock is engaged & green and works only on 49 stable..

    jus saying.. lol

  • @nvmjustagirl I can see the padlock here on 50.

  • @leocg said in Major Privacy Problem:

    @nvmjustagirl I can see the padlock here on 50.

    50.0.2759.0 64-Bit on vpn not locking..
    i dunno about w/o vpn.. all was versons was with vpn on..

    Thanks@leocg be updating soon !

  • @nvmjustagirl said in Major Privacy Problem:

    @leocg said in Major Privacy Problem:

    @nvmjustagirl I can see the padlock here on 50.

    50.0.2759.0 64-Bit on vpn not locking..
    i dunno about w/o vpn.. all was versons was with vpn on..

    Thanks@leocg be updating soon !

    ok i already got 50.0.2762.4 64-Bit Portable
    Lock not locking while on vpn @ https://forums.opera.com/
    Doubled checked.. Only Stable 49.0.27725.34 x64 Portable locks the lock while vpn is on..

  • @nvmjustagirl Check extensions, broken profile, anti-virus and so on. I'm still getting the padlock even with VPN turned on.

  • @leocg broken profile,, thanks i use stable, beta, and dev...sumtimes i backup profles but me thought i could use the profle back ups on any version ! Guess not lol

    Lets say i back up profile from stable version and then intsall beta or dev.. then use stable 's back up profile and overwite the default beta or dev.. n e ways they all work.. lol

  • I did a clean install of 50.0.2762.4 64-Bit Portable with default profile then opened Private window and Browsed to https://forums.opera.com/ Green lock engaged and working with vpn on Thanks @leocg !

    weird thing tho while i was messing in settings.. and dunno if this will work for everybody ? But lemme know if it does ! I unchecked box Continue where I left off and then checked
    Open a specific page or set of pages Set pages and I typed the word blahk in box for my home page...then guess what happened

    i now have vpn on as soon as i start Opera ! ! lol wow

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