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New Opera Forums launched

  • @davehawley Yeah, we considered this briefly when beta testing this forums. But we wanted to focus on transferring 1:1 what was on the old forums. Now when this is done we can think about next steps. 🏋

    Not sure if "Archive" would be the best place, since we want it to be, by definition, read-only and opening some, but not all, subcategories for writing could be confusing... Still, maybe adding a separate "Legacy products" category with "Opera Presto" and "Opera Mail" subcategories would not be a bad idea. We'll discuss and think about it.

  • @amatczak Thanks, good to know it's being considered!
    🙂

  • @amatczak Tested. The From header has "Forums Opera" in it now. It should be "Opera Forums" (for U.S. English at least).

  • Why is the default setting "Watching" for the whole forum ? That means I get notifications for all categories I never subscribed. The standard setting should be "Ignoring" imo.

  • @ocirnes You should get notifications only for topics that you've opened and for those that you've replied to.

    Maybe you are seeing number of unread posts?

  • @leocg Isn't it the same? A reddish indication with a count (the button next to the "Opera forums" logo) is also a notification. I don't talk about mails.
    I clicked on it and it showed a list of new posts in the Russian user forum for example (I'm not a Russian speaking user). I've never subscribed this category nor did I post something there.
    Anyway, I set every category to "Ignore", now I don't receive any "notifications" anymore.

  • @ocirnes I think you could make good arguments for both options:

    Yes, I see how it might be annoying to see by default posts in languages you don't read... but at the same time I believe many people really want to see unread posts from ALL the forums, even if just to glance over them. It would be equally frustrating for them to have to manually follow all the forums one by one.

    Additionally, if the default were "Ignoring" then the forums might appear dead by default... not a good option either. By the way, NodeBB doesn't even give us config option to set what the default should be - they opt for "Watching" and I think it's lesser of two evils.

    Part of the "problem" is that we're a big community with a lot of sub-forums. I bet on most installations of NodeBB this default probably never bothered anyone.

  • By the way I see that you can Ignore whole subtree of categories, so if you don't want to be bothered by posts in different languages (I guess most people indeed don't care about them) then just go to Local forums and set it to "Ignored" - it will propagate to all children categories.

    Hope this helps!

  • @burnout426 said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:

    @amatczak Tested. The From header has "Forums Opera" in it now. It should be "Opera Forums" (for U.S. English at least).

    🤦♂

    Corrected.

  • @amatczak We actually don't need to discuss it, if you don't have a config option to change it. 😛
    However, I want to tell you my opinion: Why should a user want to get informed about a topic dealing with Opera iPhone, if he uses an Android phone? Why should a user get informed about Russian topics if he even can't read Cyrillic? I could go on with this list.
    I've never seen a forum where everything is subscribed automatically... Why? Because it makes no sense (see above). A forum software CANNOT know what a user is interested in.
    "many people really want to see unread posts from ALL the forums"
    I don't think so. Who said this? Did you conduct a survey? If it's the case they can subscribe everything.

    As I said, I did what you suggested - I unsubscribed everything. But this is not very user friendly and most people won't know what to do to stop those notifications.
    Just my humble opinion.

  • What is the name of this forum engine?

  • How can I edit my own postings? I found some misspellings that I wanna correct.

  • @amatczak said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:

    @burnout426 said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:

    @amatczak Tested. The From header has "Forums Opera" in it now. It should be "Opera Forums" (for U.S. English at least).

    🤦♂

    Corrected.

    Looks better now. Thanks. One tiny addition if you could. In the subject, it says "Opera forums". Could you make that "Opera Forums" (capitalize "forums"). It looks better for one, but also, that's how it was with the old forums. Just to be consistent etc. 🙂

  • @emniss said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:

    How can I edit my own postings?

    Click the 3 dots at the bottom right of your post and choose "Edit". You have a limited time to do so. After that you're out of luck or you have to ask a mod to do it. 😞

  • @burnout426 said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:

    @emniss said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:

    How can I edit my own postings?

    Click the 3 dots at the bottom right of your post and choose "Edit". You have a limited time to do so. After that you're out of luck or you have to ask a mod to do it. 😞

    The three dots just say: Bookmark, Share this post: Facebook, Twitter, Google+. No edit option?! The old forum had a 30 minutes deadline to edit ones postings.

  • @ocirnes said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:

    As I said, I did what you suggested - I unsubscribed everything. But this is not very user friendly and most people won't know what to do to stop those notifications.
    Just my humble opinion.

    FWIW, I think it's weird too. But, I was already used to it from using https://forum.vivaldi.net/. When I first started using the forums there, I immediately had to ignore all the categories I wasn't interested in so "Unread" wasn't polluted.

    But, I don't even use unread/inbox there or here. I rely on email notifications only, which avoids the mess.

  • @burnout426 Good catch about the inconsistency. But it should be "Opera forums" everywhere, not "Opera Forums". Just like our logo says. The old forums were massively inconsistent about this...

  • @amatczak said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:

    Still, maybe adding a separate "Legacy products" category with "Opera Presto" and "Opera Mail" subcategories would not be a bad idea. We'll discuss and think about it.

    That'd be great!

    This forum has tags too, so having Opera Mail and Opera Presto tags and encouraging use of them would help. Would also be cool if each tag view page had an rss feed. But, I don't know if the forums support that.

  • @amatczak said in New Opera Forums launching soon!:

    @burnout426 Good catch about the inconsistency. But it should be "Opera forums" everywhere, not "Opera Forums". Just like our logo says. The old forums were massively inconsistent about this...

    Point taken. Sounds good to me.

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