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  • None of them do what I want. And I'm not the only one.

    Daniel Aleksandersen, designer @Opera, wrote this:

    It is a design decision based on the fact that everyone have enormous amounts of storage space available. You can clean up >your Downloads folder once in a while instead of having to decide between saving and opening files.

    The old Open button in legacy Opera’s Download dialog but files in a cache folder instead of the Downloads folder. This >confused the heck of many who could not find where their files were stored (because either option would store the >downloaded file on the system).

    The new way is easier to use because the same thing always happen when you download a file. But some control of individual >files is taken away to achieve this.

    It is a simplification of a regular task that did not need to be as complicated as it was.

    Click on a file download link, let it download, and then double-click on it. Having an Open dialog would require us to have >a Save dialog too. This is not likely to change.

    And some more comments about this approach and that makes life easier for users with no experience!

    It makes no sense! At least, make "open" an option! Or an extension / power user...

    I want to open a Zip file, extract the content and Opera automatically delete the temporary file after closing! Same to flash updates, small programs, etc.

    I don't want to download, open and then navigate to folder and delete the file!

    Opera is dumbing down and limiting user choices...

  • I have the same problem (between a whole range of others).

    My question is really simple (to the developers): why is it so hard to understand, that for a simple user the less clicks and moves you have to do with the mouse, the easier the job is. I don't really care where the downloaded file is saved as long as I decided that I don't want it saved, I wan't it opened.

    Unfortunately I have to say that the extra options that Opera 12 gave me (in comparison with firefox and chrome)seem to be all gone, or present in the others also.

    In the other hand, I am glad that the bookmarks problem seems to be solved, so if I will see some important options back I will stay loyal to opera (as I have been for the last 8 years).

    Until then I am still just disappointed to see my favorite browser giving up its great personality in order to become more alike some other more popular ones.

  • This is THE MAJOR problem with Opera right now. I am filling up my download folder with useless files which I want to open instead of saving, and then save them if I like, in their proper folders (not in the download folder). This is also a bit of a security risk as some of these files were saved and had malware in them! EXE files show up in my download folder that I never decided to download - they just appeared (and Opera put them there). I am very careful about downloading ANYTHING, but it seems they were downloaded without me even knowing it was happening - or is was so fast that it was over before I could stop it. I need PDF's, Torrent files, DOCs, etc. to open in specific programs (where any suspicious files are dealt with). Also need to control EXE's etc, from finding there was in without my explicit permission. Pre-chrome Opera worked just fine with this.

    I actually like this new Chrome version of Opera better overall. Though is was released as the main version WAY too early! In fact it probably still should be only a Beta as not all the functions are there yet.

  • "It is a design decision based on the fact that everyone have enormous amounts of storage space available. You can clean up >your Downloads folder once in a while instead of having to decide between saving and opening files."

    lol that comment, its not about space its about you eliminate one of the best features, its like using skype click to call its simple as that.

    ps. fix it now.

    ps2. im changing browser cya.

  • None of them do what I want. And I'm not the only one.

    Quite, which is why I've stayed with Opera v12 (v12.17 at the moment).

    Daniel Aleksandersen, designer @Opera, wrote this:

    It is a design decision based on the fact that everyone have enormous amounts of storage space available. You can clean up >your Downloads folder once in a while instead of having to decide between saving and opening files.
    The old Open button in legacy Opera's Download dialog but files in a cache folder instead of the Downloads folder. This >confused the heck of many who could not find where their files were stored (because either option would store the >downloaded file on the system).
    The new way is easier to use because the same thing always happen when you download a file. But some control of individual >files is taken away to achieve this.
    It is a simplification of a regular task that did not need to be as complicated as it was.

    Click on a file download link, let it download, and then double-click on it. Having an Open dialog would require us to have >a Save dialog too. This is not likely to change.

    This just proves that the designers at Opera, like Daniel Aleksanderson, don't listen to how the real world users of the "proper" Opera use their product!

    Why do we have to "clean up our Downloads folder once in a while" (actually I have a whole Downloads directory structure, not just a single folder) when with the proper version of Opera all temporarily downloaded files were deleted on exiting Opera. Which involves more, not less, user effort? The new Chropera of course!

    And some more comments about this approach and that makes life easier for users with no experience!

    No it doesn't (see comment above)!

    It makes no sense! At least, make "open" an option! Or an extension / power user...
    I want to open a Zip file, extract the content and Opera automatically delete the temporary file after closing! Same to flash updates, small programs, etc.

    Exactly. 🙂

    I don't want to download, open and then navigate to folder and delete the file!
    Opera is dumbing down and limiting user choices...

    Quite, so I'll be staying with Opera v12.xx for a while. It's been my default web browser for about 15 years, or more.

  • Why do we have to "clean up our Downloads folder once in a while" (actually I have a whole Downloads directory structure, not just a single folder) when with the proper version of Opera all temporarily downloaded files were deleted on exiting Opera.

    1. The temporary_downloads directory from Presto versions wasn't cleared automatically on exiting Opera.
    2. Why do you assume other users would like to discard the files they opened instead of keeping them (in a known folder, not an obscure temp directory at Opera's profile in OSs' hidden folders)?

    I don't want to download, open and then navigate to folder and delete the file!

    You don't have to do it, let it there and cleanup the folder once in a while, you can schedule a task via the OS to do that for you automatically (or a third-party cleaning tool).

  • You can open files in opera using plugins or extensions. For pdf files I use SumatraPDF, a plugin that came over when I switched from Firefox. It works fine in Opera (at least so far-- I think plugin support will be removed someday). There are Chrome extensions which claim to open other file types, but I haven't tried them. I think one named something like "Office Viewer" is one of them.

  • Why do we have to "clean up our Downloads folder once in a while" (actually I have a whole Downloads directory structure, not just a single folder) when with the proper version of Opera all temporarily downloaded files were deleted on exiting Opera.

    1. The temporary_downloads directory from Presto versions wasn't cleared automatically on exiting Opera.
    1. Why do you assume other users would like to discard the files they opened instead of keeping them (in a known folder, not an obscure temp directory at Opera's profile in OSs' hidden folders)?

    I don't want to download, open and then navigate to folder and delete the file!
    You don't have to do it, let it there and cleanup the folder once in a while, you can schedule a task via the OS to do that for you automatically (or a third-party cleaning tool).

    The problem is that the downloads folder I already use for certain types of files that I do want to save, and so cleaning out the downloads folder from things that should have been temporary files is a time consuming hassle.

    For example, I have a website database I use for work that I run dozens of queries against most days,the results should just automatically open in Excel, but in Opera all of them get thrown into my download folder. Cleaning it out means scrolling through hundreds of files and trying to decide if that was something that I need to keep, or if I can safely delete...which many times means opening up each and every file. This is needlessly overcomplicated. What the heck was wrong with giving a user the option to either open a file, or save it (with the default being the downloads folder, but having the option to save anywhere you like, and rename the file in the process)?

    This particular site doesn't display right in my version of Firefox, but they can't replicate on their end. I used for years in Opera Presto, but it started freezing up, so I tried moving to Opera Next...but this is a big enough headache that I think I'm just going to use IE (assuming they still give the option to open or save a file)

  • @ rafaelluik

    1. The temporary_downloads directory from Presto versions wasn't cleared automatically on exiting Opera.

    Well, I never deleted any file that I didn't save. Remember that we are talking about "open", not "save".

    1. Why do you assume other users would like to discard the files they opened instead of keeping them (in a known folder, not an obscure temp directory at Opera's profile in OSs' hidden folders)?

    What are you saying?! The users should be able to choose! All we are asking is to have 3 options: Open, Save and Cancel. All possibilities are covered if the developers just add a simple option.

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  • BTW and how about such simple thing as click on torrent download start file? Instead on opening with onPC download software Opera now saves this (in other way useless) file and user must click on it to open it with, for example, μTorrent. There is no problem to clear download folder from these files, but, in first place, problem is that user must click many times to start download process. It's ok if you need only one file to download, but if you have 50 different seperate files? You need to click to download and then find them in download folder and click again to start download process.

  • Why would you do that? You can doubleclick directly on the Download completed pop-up.

  • And that's the problem - you still need to make extra clicks. You may call me lazy, but isn't that the idea to make all faster and more simple?

  • One extra click, that is all, how is that not faster and more simple ?.

    I mean, you have to double click Opera's icon to get it to run, and most other software too, which is pretty much second nature for most desktop systems.

  • But isn't that user's rights to choose whether to open save or run. It would be great if one can predefine in browser's options what to do with certain type of files. Of course if Opera developers want to play everyday user friendly stuff, its ok to predefine certain browsers actions as "save all in d-folder", but why to deny change options?
    For me it was: first I was angry that I couldn't open these files, then I was forced to dig in options and didn't find anything, then I wasted my time to search in net to finaly find out that there is no such option at all.

  • Double click is an option, but then you don't have to use it.

    You could also create a new topic and post a request to have that feature implemented in this part of the forum linked below.

    https://forums.opera.com/category/15/suggestions-and-feature-requests

  • @linuxmint7

    One extra click, that is all, how is that not faster and more simple ?.

    I'm sorry, but I have to ask if you really believe in what you just wrote.

    How is that faster and simple?
    How is clicking a file, click again in the download, open and then delete it manually... how is that faster and more simple that just click on the file and choose to open it?

    Now, imagine 50 zip files. On Opera 12, I just click the file, it open 7zip and in the end the tmp file was deleted.
    Only 1 click required, total 50.

    In Opera 22, I have to click on the file for download, click again to open the file and in the end, click again to delete.
    3 clicks required, total 150.

    It's not more simple, it's not faster and it's not intuitive.

    All we want is the OPEN OPTION!

  • @tntnt Then you may wish to read my other post just above yours and post a wish/request to the part of the forum I linked too.

  • We (who want to have an option of opening, etc.) are not talking about "doing your life worst". We just want at least an option to actívate de UI of Open, Save, Save as. That will not disturb you if you do not actívate that option and we will can be happy without worrying about that. We can just customize the browser as we want, that's what I refer to.

    Indeed, we are worried about security too. If an autorun program or just an EXE program get in our computers that could make a disaster (virus). Another point is that we are talking in something like:

    a)Open, Save, Save as, Save and Open, Cancel
    b)You can customize the download folder and you just have to click in save and it will be there, it will not appear in an OS hidden folders, it will just appear where you specified. Just one safer click more and will be the same.

    If you choose Open, it will just open a file and then it will be erased.
    If you choose Save, it will save the file in the folder that you could choose before
    If you choose Save as, it will save the file in the folder that you choose in that moment.
    If you choose Save and Open, it will open the file and save it in the choosen folder.
    If you choose Cancel, it will be not downloaded. This could be useful with mistakes of downloading or WEBs that can make you download virus or another malicious files.

    That's all, and It could be just an extra option that you can choose.

    Thanks

  • Guys, I know that IT geeks do not have brains but we really do not want to Opera to die and kindle ask you to do what folks say. Just do yourself a favour and follow this request or we will say goodby to Opera.

    No more OPEN file button? Use Chrome, it has it!

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