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Opera Sold

  • Hopefully its more like the Volkswagen-Bugatti buyout than the Daimler Benz-Chrysler acquisition.

  • @canadagoose4ever
    "Much of our security software is Russian, Romanian, Chinese." mine isnt 😃

    "If we believe the US or UK governments are not spying on us, we're delusional." i agree and windows 10 is the best proof, but thats not the issue here.

    the issue is, an american company has to follow american laws. a chinese company has to follow chinese laws and you cant deny the censorship and all the other bullcrap that is going on. you can tell about america whatever you want, but you still got freedom of speech over there and thats something you simply dont have in china. even if opera is a product for international use, it has to be modified to satisfy the chinese government and if some changes are against the laws of the country you live in, well, good luck to see them care. its a chinese product now and china is all that matters. everything else is second-tier.

  • The spying of Microsoft, Google or even the USA government is COMPLETELY different from that of a Chinese company. What Chinese company will do is steal your passwords, bank account information etc(which is unlikely to be done by Google, Facebook or the USA government,they have no interest on that little amount of money in your bank account after all).Also a Chinese company may shut down Opera Inc after they acquired the data compression technology, or they may include some virus or malware in the new version of opera browser.

  • Qihoo 360 has notorious scandals over the years, while people like you in Western world may not know. China is a country ruled by people, not really by law. So will Privacy Statement and Terms of Use be fully abided by, who knows? I'm also done with Opera under marketing people. Take a look at the financial reports of Opera Software and judge by yourself.

    Will delete my opera account after this post. I have been using Vivaldi browser by ex-CEO and co-founder of Opera, and it's good enough for early adopters now. Best wishes for people who choose to stay.

  • I bet on that Chropera will be rebranded to something like ChangChiChong760 spyware browser. I mean another one chromium-based browser for Chinese market.

  • Well, Opera is a chrome based browser. I only use it because I don't want to use big G's Chrome itself and because I'm a former Opera user.
    It's nice, has developed cool, and I like. However it is just a chrome clone.
    Now Vivaldi is yet another chrome clone and developing fast.
    If the Chinese mess things up, and I am sure they will, not because they are Chinese, but because they are biiiiggg, then I'll move on to Vivaldi and see how that goes.
    In the meantime there is an old but solid alternative - FF 😉

  • Yeah, the Furry Vermin Ablaze rules.
    The last hope - till the very moment they go "trans-Uranian" themselves :rip:

  • I had returned since upgrades allowed me to do what I wanted with Opera, making it a viable option. Now with this news I will be deleting Opera once again.

    Yes the world's governments like the US and UK and etc. spy on people, but usually their interests are narrow- they want to gather data about XYZ issue and do a little spying on government or organizations they are paranoid about. Their operations within their country's companies are usually indirect, done in the back room, in the basement, where few can see them, via secret court order.

    China on the other hand is deeply involved in the companies its country hosts, and is openly in the board room. Additionally, it's activities are broad and covers everything from spying on governments, organizations, people, to sabotaging governments and organizations, to theft of financial data both personal and corporate, to censorship and everything in between.

    If the sale goes through they'll have direct access to Opera, and SurfEasy, the VPN network Opera runs.

    I don't trust the world's governments any more than I trust China, but China has proven itself far more enthusiastic when it comes to its surreptitious activities... especially regarding the internet.

  • Blimey, so much paranoia. No deal has been done yet.

  • And now?

  • And now?

    What?

  • I've brought to here what you had put there. I intend hear more opinions from more persons.

  • I don't know anything about this company in China. I don't know who to trust. So, if I need to use Opera I won't be syncing any info. As I'm using a Chromebook right now because my main laptop is dead, this doesn't affect me personally. AT least not for a while.

    I will just watch and wait

  • As long as its stock is trading under Opera ASA's own name and listing, it probably means the final change in control via a majority of shares has not occurred. On 11 February, Quihoo stated its intention to delist the stock after it acquires control: `http://www.pressreader.com/belgium/the-wall-street-journal-europe/20160211/282230894739355/TextView'

  • I am very grateful. However, I can not access the address you indicated. The reason: "We Could not find the page you're looking for.The link might be broken, or the page might have been removed." Maybe due to my geographical localization?

  • Quinca, same here.

  • Somebody says trojan horse for Chinese market? Well, it's for Chinese not for UE or US.

  • I am very grateful. However, I can not access the address you indicated. The reason: "We Could not find the page you're looking for.The link might be broken, or the page might have been removed." Maybe due to my geographical localization?

    Agreed, the page has evaporated, most likely because of aging. I re-checked today (27 Feb) and the link no longer works, though it did yesterday and before. The article contained some quotes from a Quihoo spokesman regarding their strategy of developing global markets and assuring that they had a significant place for Opera and its products/services in that strategy, regardless of their plan to delist Opera (delisting a stock is normal when a company is bought by another and is absorbed into their internal operational structure).

  • @blackbird - Gratefull again. Enlightening.

  • The article contained some quotes from a Quihoo spokesman regarding their strategy of developing global markets and assuring that they had a significant place for Opera and its products/services in that strategy, regardless of their plan to delist Opera (delisting a stock is normal when a company is bought by another and is absorbed into their internal operational structure

    Please, I beg to ask, if delisting finally comes to be accepted by Opera, which would (or could) be the role of the Norwegian company within the expansion plan? I assume that, whatever may be, will be in absolute submission to the Chinese consortium.
    Excuse me, can be a very layman's question, and undue assumptions, but I have to keep myself within my limits.

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