erick-till last edited by
As Snowden said: today no computer is safe.
We are all spied on, and all technologies available for normal users (firewall, anti-virus)
have cosmetic effect, for this reason most are free.
One of the best Opera versions was 26. After, it turned a CC (chrome-clone), it became slow and consumes a lot of memory.
I think selling Opera for 360 would be great because it will prevent it dies or is purchased by Google, M$,etc.
The sale will increase competition. They will surely improve the browser to compete with others.
Today, I use Opera as a second browser and moved to Firefox with FVD Speed Dial. Lightweight, fast, beautiful and safer.
I hope Opera improves. As for the owners, it makes no difference, Kaspersky remains one of the most reliable antivirus.
y0y0 last edited by
One of the best Opera versions was 26.
Never went past 10 which I'm posting this one.
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; U; en) Presto/2.2.15 Version/10.10
Didn't like the full change that came later.
nco2k last edited by
#StillYourOpera, no its not. if you sell something, its not yours anymore.
im extremly disappointed and disgusted by this news. there is more to life than just money and if you actually cared about the product and its userbase, you would have never agreed to that deal.
opera is an european product and its sickening to see another great software go. especially to a chinese company that supports censorship and backdoors.
i have been using opera since more than 10 years, but when that day comes, im gone.
canadagoose4ever last edited by
Certainly a lot of silly comments (i.e. would you trust your computing to a Chinese company?). Seriously, much of our hardware is Chinese. Much of our security software is Russian. Romanian, Chinese. If we believe the US or UK governments are not spying on us, we're delusional. As for those still running ancient OS's like XP, you're incredibly foolish. And using an old browser such as Opera 10 is ridiculous. I'd be far more worried about a lack of security with outdated browsers and operating systems than whether the browser is made in China.
browzer1 last edited by
canadagoose ... People are expressing their opinions as they see fit.
It's not up to you to determine which comments are "silly" or foolish.
If someone is using XP and it fulfills their needs, that's their choice, not yours.
If this deal goes through, I will think long and hard about the principle of supporting a Chinese owned and maintained browser.
saudiqbal ... As far as Vivaldi is concerned, it is not ready for prime time. I find it much slower and constantly prone to freezing and crashing.
At this point in time, it is not a viable alternative.
cozza last edited by
So glad Opera was never bought by Facebook!
freshprinceofthesix last edited by
Hopefully its more like the Volkswagen-Bugatti buyout than the Daimler Benz-Chrysler acquisition.
nco2k last edited by
"Much of our security software is Russian, Romanian, Chinese." mine isnt
"If we believe the US or UK governments are not spying on us, we're delusional." i agree and windows 10 is the best proof, but thats not the issue here.
the issue is, an american company has to follow american laws. a chinese company has to follow chinese laws and you cant deny the censorship and all the other bullcrap that is going on. you can tell about america whatever you want, but you still got freedom of speech over there and thats something you simply dont have in china. even if opera is a product for international use, it has to be modified to satisfy the chinese government and if some changes are against the laws of the country you live in, well, good luck to see them care. its a chinese product now and china is all that matters. everything else is second-tier.
chanbeta last edited by
The spying of Microsoft, Google or even the USA government is COMPLETELY different from that of a Chinese company. What Chinese company will do is steal your passwords, bank account information etc(which is unlikely to be done by Google, Facebook or the USA government,they have no interest on that little amount of money in your bank account after all).Also a Chinese company may shut down Opera Inc after they acquired the data compression technology, or they may include some virus or malware in the new version of opera browser.
Deleted User last edited by
Will delete my opera account after this post. I have been using Vivaldi browser by ex-CEO and co-founder of Opera, and it's good enough for early adopters now. Best wishes for people who choose to stay.
stng last edited by
I bet on that Chropera will be rebranded to something like ChangChiChong760 spyware browser. I mean another one chromium-based browser for Chinese market.
catopman last edited by
Well, Opera is a chrome based browser. I only use it because I don't want to use big G's Chrome itself and because I'm a former Opera user.
It's nice, has developed cool, and I like. However it is just a chrome clone.
Now Vivaldi is yet another chrome clone and developing fast.
If the Chinese mess things up, and I am sure they will, not because they are Chinese, but because they are biiiiggg, then I'll move on to Vivaldi and see how that goes.
In the meantime there is an old but solid alternative - FF
joshl last edited by
Yeah, the Furry Vermin Ablaze rules.
The last hope - till the very moment they go "trans-Uranian" themselves :rip:
starry001 last edited by
I had returned since upgrades allowed me to do what I wanted with Opera, making it a viable option. Now with this news I will be deleting Opera once again.
Yes the world's governments like the US and UK and etc. spy on people, but usually their interests are narrow- they want to gather data about XYZ issue and do a little spying on government or organizations they are paranoid about. Their operations within their country's companies are usually indirect, done in the back room, in the basement, where few can see them, via secret court order.
China on the other hand is deeply involved in the companies its country hosts, and is openly in the board room. Additionally, it's activities are broad and covers everything from spying on governments, organizations, people, to sabotaging governments and organizations, to theft of financial data both personal and corporate, to censorship and everything in between.
If the sale goes through they'll have direct access to Opera, and SurfEasy, the VPN network Opera runs.
I don't trust the world's governments any more than I trust China, but China has proven itself far more enthusiastic when it comes to its surreptitious activities... especially regarding the internet.
cozza last edited by
Blimey, so much paranoia. No deal has been done yet.
Deleted User last edited by
I've brought to here what you had put there. I intend hear more opinions from more persons.