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Confusion with Opera Versions

  • Thank you very much for your feedback, Lando242. That puts a lot of my confusion to rest! I'm thinking that maybe I have no really good reason to quit Opera 12 now .... :down:

  • Web page compatibility and security are two very big reasons to keep your browser current.

  • For in a way restricted use I wouldn't consider it a problem.
    Having such a browser for such a use myself and other browsers on the system for UNrestricted usage*:P*

  • A user has to decide how he wants to come at his online activities. Does he want one-size-fits-all usage (hence one browser), or does he want peak performance for each of several different activities (in which case, more than one browser). Myself, I use the latter approach: I have several different browsers, each used for different things. For example, where speed is needed over fidelity or site compatibility, I use something like Olde Opera or a few others. Likewise, where security matters, I have a couple of browsers that are kept fully up to date with privacy settings nailed down. For general browsing, I have certain others I use, depending on my whim of the day and the changing world of browser evolution. The key to this approach, however, is self-discipline: ALWAYS be willing to open a different browser to do a different kind of thing - especially with regard to security-related matters.

    However, that kind of online behavior or self-discipline is not for everybody. In that case, unless one never does anything online involving meaningful personal data that needs security consideration, use the most comfortable-feeling browser that is kept 100% up-to-date. Opera versions prior to Opera 12.17 contain various security flaws, greater or lesser in scope. Opera 12.17 was and probably is up to date in terms of basic security, but the world of site certificates, encryption standards, and web protocols is fast changing. Cert and encryption incompatibilities at secure sites are becoming increasingly problematic with Olde Opera versions, and will only become more so as time goes by. Users can no longer simply assume that new security flaws will be fixed in Olde Opera in a timely way, if only because its Presto engine is largely unsupported any more. Such new flaws will probably lie more in the Internet protocol realm rather than in exploitation of browser code weakness in Olde Opera.

  • I wasn't referring to "privacy" (or what some misconstrew as privacy, such as analytics); I was referring to drive-by malware, exploits that could steal your actual personal data and/or destroy your irreplaceable files--actual security not-the-tinfoil-hat-kind.

    Around Opera 8 or 9 I had to give it up becuase I had too many sites not rendering correctly. I prefer straightforward simplicity, efficiency. I want fast, compatible, extensible and Opera 33 gives me that. I haven't found a faster browser (Edge is faster but it isn't extensible, so it doesn't even qualify).

  • Hey, you guys are great! These are all new insights for me. I think I understand everything -- except "restricted" and "unrestricted" use by Joshi. Can you please explain?

    Here's a new question that emerges for me: Can both v12.17 and v3x. be running simultaneously, or might they conflict?

    Thanks again!

  • Can both v12.17 and v3x. be running simultaneously, or might they conflict?

    They can run together without any problems.

  • Hey, you guys are great! These are all new insights for me. I think I understand everything -- except "restricted" and "unrestricted" use by Joshi. Can you please explain?

    1. It's JoshL.
    2. You restrict yourself - read the post by Blackbird?
  • I just installed Opera 32, upgrading from v. 12.16. I understand blackbird's thinking, but I need to keep my life simple, and one browser is enough, as long as it works well. Opera 12 could no longer properly display an increasing number of sites (such as barnesandnoble.com, where it did not display the portion of a page where you could add an item to your shopping cart). I made the move with some hesitation, but it was necessary.

    Opera 32 seems plenty fast to me. I certainly miss the built-in Sessions function, which was one of the great features of Opera. But there are ways of replicating it adequately in 32 (see https://forums.opera.com/topic/10481/can-t-find-save-session-option). Bookmarks imported fine; this can be done during install; or Alt+P Settings, as lando suggested; or Main Menu > More tools > Import bookmarks and settings. This does bring in certain settings, along with bookmarks and sessions. For instance, my stored passwords imported OK, not autofill, and not my preferred search engine. It's not hard to restore these.

    As lando said, v. 32 is rather pared down and clearly still under development--we're all beta testers all the time, no matter what browser we use. But I don't find it that much different to use from v. 12. The two things I really miss so far are tab stacking and using Shift+Click or Ctrl+Click to open a link in a new foreground or background tab, respectively.

  • READER ALERT: This is an old (October 2015) thread.

    I am the OP. In re-reading this thread I have a question re lando242's response above to my original post. viz. he suggests using SESSION BUDDY in Opera. I have just now (finally) looked into doing this and all that I am able to determine is that SESSION BUDDY is for the Chrome browser. Am I wrong? Can I not use this extension with Opera?

    lando242, are you still there?

    Anyone else?

    Apologies for my unusual sequencing here -- I will start a new thread if the original context is lost...

  • You can use it in conjunction with another extension called 'Download Chrome Extension'. It allows you to install Chrome extensions in Opera. It doesn't work with all of them but it works just fine with Session Buddy.

  • Thanks lando,

    I'm amazed how you can keep up with all this stuff !!