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Why did opera change to chrome engine?

  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    Originally posted by bjdobson:

    Okay, call me stupid but WHAT are Opera Blink and Opera Presto?

    Don't tempt me 😉 Opera Blink

    Your constant UN-answers and putdowns are getting tiresome, Pesala.

    I know how to Google. I wanted an answer from someone who USED them. Too bad you just can't seem to understand that.

    BOOKMARKS: There is a way to use a Chrome tool to have a bookmarks bar but it's definitely NOT the same as having the old bookmarks bar and requires a LOT more work.

    You are not the end all and be all, Pesala. Some of us DO NOT LIKE the new way bookmarks MUST be used and wish a more convenient, easy way to do it, especially when you have HUNDREDS of bookmarks, like a lot of us do.

    Try to be constructive, Pesala, in your answers, please. That would be very helpful 🙂

  • Originally posted by bjdobson:

    Try to be constructive, Pesala, in your answers, please. That would be very helpful

    My replies are always constructive, if rather irritating to lazy users. I did your work for you in finding info about Opera Blink, and showed you how to find information on the Web in the process. Your constant complaining on this forum is not helpful to anyone — in fact, it's really quite disruptive. When offered explanations, such as how to search with other search engines from the address bar, instead of complaining yet again and making snide comments elsewhere about dismissive remarks, acknowledge the help given, and use the tips provided for a while to see if they work for you. No one can tell you how to enable features that do not exist yet, so complaining at other users about it is only "biting the hand that feeds."

    Originally posted by bjdobson:

    There is a way to use a Chrome tool to have a bookmarks bar but it's definitely NOT the same as having the old bookmarks bar and requires a LOT more work.

    The Quick Access Bar is almost identical to the old Bookmarks Bar, and even better in that it supports D&D.

  • Originally posted by MortenOSlash:

    I miss the opportunity to move the tab bar to the bottom of the window. (I have two monitors, and usually have the browser in the upper monitor.)
    I miss the opportunity to add buttons and functions to the address bar and to toolbars. (I frequently use some of the advanced functions of the browser.)
    I miss the favourites/bookmarks, and I hate the speed dial and want to turn it of like you could on Presto. (I would rather have my new tabs completely empty.)
    I miss being able to turn on the showing of the page size in the title bar.
    I miss a real status bar.

    Other than that, the Blink seems OK, though I should like someone to make a skinn in classical Win9x style.

    … and I miss the back button one could add (or replace with the existing back button) with a pulldown menu to go several steps back in one go. Practical for sites that often spins you forward a step or two when you follow a link. (I have not found any such on Opera 18)

  • Originally posted by MortenOSlash:

    … and I miss the back button one could add (or replace with the existing back button) with a pulldown menu to go several steps back in one go. Practical for sites that often spins you forward a step or two when you follow a link. (I have not found any such on Opera 18)

    Me, too. I have several customized buttons I use ALL THE TIME that I really would miss if I were to go to Opera 18 or 19.

  • Originally posted by MortenOSlash:

    … and I miss the back button one could add (or replace with the existing back button) with a pulldown menu to go several steps back in one go. Practical for sites that often spins you forward a step or two when you follow a link. (I have not found any such on Opera 18)

    Just keep the mouse button pressed down for about a second when clicking on the back button and said menu will appear.

  • Originally posted by sherool:

    Just keep the mouse button pressed down for about a second when clicking on the back button and said menu will appear.

    Really?????

    Awesome!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!

  • Originally posted by sherool:

    Originally posted by MortenOSlash:

    … and I miss the back button one could add (or replace with the existing back button) with a pulldown menu to go several steps back in one go. Practical for sites that often spins you forward a step or two when you follow a link. (I have not found any such on Opera 18)

    Just keep the mouse button pressed down for about a second when clicking on the back button and said menu will appear.

    This is like Christmas Day and Easter Morning in one go! Simple way to avoid the frustrations! I like it! Thank you!

  • I love presto

  • Originally posted by wubo058:

    I love presto

    So Do I, as a html/css coder.
    Right click, and disable certain script or covering header identification (mask as... Opera/IE/etc)...
    I missed that feature on Presto.

  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    Originally posted by sherool:

    not even basic stuff like bookmarks are back.

    This complaint is getting beyond tiresome, please search before posting. Bookmarks have been available in the Quick Access Bar for several versions now. It is even called the Bookmarks Bar again in Opera 19. Lots of features are still missing, but some have returned. Custom search engines, draggable tabs, and themes to mention just a few.

    I am quite sure that a couple of months ago I could drag a speed dial entry up and drop it in my quick access bar on Opera 18, but now it does not seem to work? Is there something I have forgotten?

  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    The Quick Access Bar is almost identical to the old Bookmarks Bar, and even better in that it supports D&D.

    is not the same :S To add a new folder, you need to add it at "root" level in the bar, then move it to where it belongs xD its frustrating and that should be done before you try to add the new bookmark. :S

  • Originally posted by miniramleela:

    I don't care what the underlying code is, end result is that the functionality should be maintained nothing else.

    But we do care about the code or engine, and quite a lot too. One of old Opera’s strongest points is its security, since hackers consider its user base not worth their effort. But they're a lot keener to attack a widely used engine like Chromium and would have taken the trouble to learn it well too.

    Getting back to the main topic of “Why did opera change to chrome engine?” my guess is that they weren't succeeding in gaining market share with the old Opera, while popular sites gradually stopped supporting it.

    Indeed, site compatibility is for me its greatest weakness. If they could solve that, they'd have easily the best browser on the planet.

    But my feeling about the new version is that if Opera users wanted Chrome, they'd be using Google’s Chrome, not Opera. Furthermore, this makes me apprehensive about new Opera’s potential for success.

    At the same time, they seem to have stopped updating the old Opera, thus speeding its abandonment. Unfortunately for us hardcore Opera users, the sad end to another era is approaching.

  • Originally posted by MortenOSlash:

    I am quite sure that a couple of months ago I could drag a speed dial entry up and drop it in my quick access bar on Opera 18, but now it does not seem to work? Is there something I have forgotten?

    Probably something in a development version that didn't make it to final.

    Opera 20:

    • Bookmarks bar – you can drag sites from speed dial and tabs

    Originally posted by pojomx:

    To add a new folder, you need to add it at "root" level in the bar

    I am still trying to figure out how to add a folder to the Bookmarks bar in Opera 11.64. The only way seems to be via the Bookmarks panel. Whatever, this is trivial. Folders do not need to be added every day like bookmarks do.

  • I just wanted to cry about Opera getting worse. I remember long time ago I switched to opera because of some firefox errors. Since then I have been using Opera. But for some time now I have been using Opera 12, because everything after that is terrible. No start bar? That is the best quick way how to access all the bookmarks I have. And start page? Yesterday tried to upgrade to opera 19 - I could get only 9 fast links in one window and had to scroll down for the others. And I have a 23" screen! In opera 12 I can aces all my 27 favorite pages in no time. Opera itself is forcing me to use different browsers more often than I would like to.

  • Couldn't care less what the self-proclaimed "Opera experts" are saying.
    Moving to Chrome is identical to the idiot who changed Coke flavour and almost put the company out of business. Beyond idiocy.
    I dug out an old Opera and have used that.
    If I wanted Chrome I'd use Torch. And I do. Opera not being Opera is cutting it's own throat
    And the self-loving pomposity of the "experts" won't mask that

  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    Originally posted by MortenOSlash:

    I am quite sure that a couple of months ago I could drag a speed dial entry up and drop it in my quick access bar on Opera 18, but now it does not seem to work? Is there something I have forgotten?

    Probably something in a development version that didn't make it to final.

    I am fairly sure I never did use any dev version?!

  • Originally posted by MortenOSlash:

    I could drag a speed dial entry up and drop it in my quick access bar

    Hi MortenOSlash, Go to address bar, type: "opera://flags/#speed-dial-native-dnd", and press "Enter" key, then select "Enabled" within the select box for this flag, restart the Opera, and here you go 🙂

  • Originally posted by l33t4opera:

    Originally posted by MortenOSlash:

    I could drag a speed dial entry up and drop it in my quick access bar

    Hi MortenOSlash, Go to address bar, type: "opera://flags/#speed-dial-native-dnd", and press "Enter" key, then select "Enabled" within the select box for this flag, restart the Opera, and here you go 🙂

    Thank you! 😃

    (They seem to hide the best features with the browser well these days.)

  • Originally posted by bjdobson:

    Okay, call me stupid but WHAT are Opera Blink and Opera Presto?? Are they versions of Opera that were known by a number (like Opera 12) and a name? I've never heard of them.

    Seeing as no-one else answered your question:

    Opera Presto is/was the old one that used the superior Presto rendering engine. Version numbers from 1.xx to 12.xx
    Opera Blink is the new one that uses the inferior Blink engine and removed most customization. Version numbers are 15+

  • Bookmarks have been available in the Quick Access Bar for several versions now. It is even called the Bookmarks Bar again in Opera 19. Lots of features are still missing, but some have returned. Custom search engines, draggable tabs, and themes to mention just a few.
    But I don't want a bar! Screw bars! Bars are for loosers! I want a button that could be put anywhere, like it was in 12.

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