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Why do I (you) still keep using older (v12) version?

  • I didn't find a way to export my saved passwords to the new opera
    This is easy but you'll probably lose your current Opera 20+ profile (all the Speed Dials, bookmarks and passwords you've saved until now). Follow the same procedure that imports bookmarks, as it also imports passwords:

    To import your profile from another installation, open the Run dialog (Windows Key + R) and use this command:

    "Full Opera Blink installation path\launcher.exe" --presto-small-prefs-dir="Full Opera Presto profile path\profile"

    • integrated Mail
    • custom buttons & custom menus
    • sidebar
    • server completion in adressbar
    • nicknames in bookmarks
    • several minor helping things
  • why i still use 12.16?

    linux

  • As for me, I am pretty disappointed that Opera is now like a clone of Chromium. The Opera (Pesto) is faster in response and has more features built in. I remember using Opera since the mid 1990s and I love it. Since then, it was only Opera as my main browser, using Firefox only to render some websites. Now that Opera has reolutionalized, I have switch to Chromium indefinitely. Sometimes, I still reminisce and use the Opera Pesto 😛
    Well everyone moves on for their best benefit right? I just wish Opera all the best. I am happy enough that I can still get hold of the old Opera Pesto.

    Pesto is a sauce made with basil, cheese and olive oil, Which has nothing to do with Opera the browser.
    I guess you must mean Presto ?, The heart of the Classic, Original (and best) version of Opera.

    lol, the irony is that blink is kinda cheesy.

  • I still use Opera 12.16 because of its bookmarks pane. I have over 9000 bookmarks. The Opera 20 bookmarks bar can handle that number of bookmarks (spread across two folders) but it's very slow, taking 12 seconds to display the bookmarks each time I open one of the folders. Opera 12.16 is instantaneous.

    Also, I can't see any way of filtering/searching the bookmarks in Opera 20. I use the bookmarks quick find in Opera 12.16 all the time.

    That having been said, I've started using Opera 20 as a secondary browser to handle the pages that don't render in Opera 12.16 well (eg the new Yahoo Mail). I'm looking forward to being able to ditch Opera 12.16 completely since it's having increasing problems with different web sites. The browsing experience is much better in Opera 20, I have almost no problems. If the bookmarks issue was fixed I'd ditch Opera 12.16 in a heartbeat.

  • @simontewsg
    Have you tried 12.14 ?, It has much better site compatibility than 12.16, as found by me and many users here on this and the old Opera forum.

  • today 25 September still using opera 12.17 Love old opera !!!!! never like any other browser !!

  • I still use Opera 12.16 because of its bookmarks pane. I have over 9000 bookmarks. The Opera 20 bookmarks bar can handle that number of bookmarks (spread across two folders) but it's very slow, taking 12 seconds to display the bookmarks each time I open one of the folders. Opera 12.16 is instantaneous.
    Also, I can't see any way of filtering/searching the bookmarks in Opera 20. I use the bookmarks quick find in Opera 12.16 all the time.
    That having been said, I've started using Opera 20 as a secondary browser to handle the pages that don't render in Opera 12.16 well (eg the new Yahoo Mail). I'm looking forward to being able to ditch Opera 12.16 completely since it's having increasing problems with different web sites. The browsing experience is much better in Opera 20, I have almost no problems. If the bookmarks issue was fixed I'd ditch Opera 12.16 in a heartbeat.

    9000 Ultimate you can make another Web Dictionary I guess Wow!! I would love to see them !

  • I still use Opera 12.16 because of its bookmarks pane. I have over 9000 bookmarks.

    What??!?!? 9000? There's no way that can be right. Check it again.

  • Agree with the sentiment....OK I stopped using opera for a few version and o disappointment to realized this thing has been dumbed down. All the great features have been dumbed down to make it look like chrome.. sad..

    I guess I will be installing 12.16 too. LOVE the mouse gestures, LOVEEEEE the tab management...etc, etc, etc.

  • So glad you enjoy the etc, etc, etc. Do enjoy the older, discontinued browser. But at least upgrade it to 12.17. We wouldn't want you to be too dumbed down. :whistle:

  • Why I still use Opera 12.17:

    1. Tab management. You have the freedom to configure it. Open new tabs in the foreground-background. Next to the current tab, or at the end. Where to go after the current tab is closed. The Chrome tab management is just a pure pain.
    2. Linux. While there is a beta version of Opera 26 for Linux, Opera 12.17 still seems to be more stable.
    3. Customizable keyboard shortcuts. I still prefer using Ctrl+N to open a new tab. In Chrome and the new Opera we are stuck to Ctrl+t and there is no freedom to change it.
    4. The speed-dial is better. You can control the number of icons per row, and the number of rows. The speed-dial can scale, so that it would always stay visible. You can use Ctrl+1, Ctrl+2, etc., in order to open the pages from the speed-dial. I use this feature hundreds of times per day while at work.

    Basically, Opera 12.17 leaves the feeling that the user is treated with respect. You are given the freedom to tailor the browser according to your needs. The new Opera browser is like "this feature is not available, it is not going to be added, we don't care what you want, deal with it".

    It's true that many pages start to fail loading in Opera 12.17. It has some annoying bugs too, but each time I try the newer versions, I tend to come back running.

  • @lem729 I agree with you. Bookmark toolbar and bookmark manager seem to be separated. My bookmarks should appear on it, but that does not happen.

    This should be close immediately because it is only a war between Presto users x Blink users. Moderator, consider this and close it. Thank you.

  • Why do I (you) still keep using older (v12) version?

    12?
    Haven't started.:whistle:

  • This should be close immediately because it is only a war between Presto users x Blink users. Moderator, consider this and close it. Thank you.

    Frankly, I don't think it's a Presto/Blink war. I like the way Blink renders pages.It works faster than Presto for me. If all the usability features that were available in the old Opera were present, then nobody would even mention Presto.

  • If all the usability features that were available in the old Opera were present,

    If only it were that simple.

  • If all the usability features that were available in the old Opera were present,

    If only it were that simple.

    And even I will agree with this statement. I used Opera for years (since 1999) so I'm well aware of its unique features and history. However, I'm ready to go with where Opera is heading and hopeful that in time those features that the developers will add to the new Blink engine will make Opera the premiere browser among all the others. Even thinking of going back to Presto would be unthinkable. There are users who want a sidebar. Frankly, I can't see it but I understand that for some it is important. I'm not sure the architecture of the new browser can accept it but if so then I would be in favor of adding it via an extension (so I can turn it off but others who want it can use it). That's pretty much how I see the new browser being acceptable to all - via extensions.

  • Why I'm still using Opera 10.10 🙂 as my main browser?

    1. Navigation speed, esp backward navigation is lightning fast
    2. Rewind / Fast Forward, esp ability to create dynamic FF target in userjs by creating 'link rel' tag (doesn't work in O12 anymore, this is one main reason to keep O10 on board at least for one important site)
    3. UI configurability, most important of it is possibility to put New tab button at left (= static location)
    4. Status bar - this is a must for me
    5. IFrame blocker (could probably be done with help of extensions, haven't seen one)
    6. Tabs opening and closing logic (can almost reproduced using extensions)
    7. Side panel for bookmarks and history management
    8. Good user CSS support (Stylish and Stylebot do not work so well, they tend to blink pages etc)
    9. Sensible file download dialogs with Open button
    10. No unnecessary animations in UI

    Why I'm attempting to use nuOpera however (or which truOpera problems are solved)?

    1. Site compatibility, incl HTML5 and jQuery compatibility
    2. Fast javascript engine
    3. Some very good extensions (AdBlock, Ghostery)
    4. Hope to see SmartCard (Estonian IDCard) support added in next few years...
  • Donq, why is it not an 11?
    11's not 12, you know? 😉

  • Hard to say, why O10 - there was likely some minor problem with O11 (my custom-modified theme didn't look so pretty or something) and I didn't upgrade O10 initially and just keep using it by old habits. Well, O12.50dev was also in use before nuOpera, sometimes, and on one PC I think even O9 is flying well.

    This actually doesn't make big difference. truOpera, be it 9 or 12, has some special soul in it, attention to small details or so. nuOpera is trying hard to start differentiate itself from [characterless] Chrome, but somehow those new shiny ideas do not resonate with my mind. Maybe I'm getting old and conservative 🙂

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